On 12 Feb 2004, at 15:34, Mark R. Diggory wrote:

Torsten Curdt wrote:
Also note, generally the sandbox is only made available to existing Apache Commiters, if you want to submit a project for the Commons and you are a Apache Commiter, then you can just create the project in the sandbox.
only Jakarta Committers or really all Apache Committers?

I'm not sure, maybe someone reading this is better informed about that. In general there are commons/sandboxs in many of the TLP's and even a "Apache Commons" TLP now.


So I would suspect that jakarta commons stuff is primarily the arena of jakarta developers, but, if you looked at the membership to groups at apache, you'd find allot of mixing between the groups.

AIUI


the sandbox is open for the use (upon request) for any apache committer who wishes to create an original component for the ASF (in the sense of created for the ASF) involving java. all code that has been distributed previously (rather than created for the ASF) must go through the incubator (even if that incubation is short).

the vision for the incubator is debatable but my personal hope would be that for components aiming at the commons sandbox, it should be a short process focussed on the legality of the code transfer. some ASF members share this opinion, others see the incubator as a future complete replacement for the commons sandbox.

the future of each current sandbox components is undecided (at least until the time comes for them to leave). some may graduate to the commons proper, others may become sub-projects of jakarta or other top level projects. some may just quietly become forgotten.

the question of the best home to which a sandbox component should graduate is there one that can (and should) be left until it is mature enough to leave the sandbox. sandbox components may not have releases (wanting a release is a sign that it's time for the component to move on to a new home).

- robert


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