On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 14:21 -0700, Karr, David wrote:
> Sigh.
> 
> Adding the "Connection: close" header didn't help.  In fact, I don't
> even see it in Ethereal.  I don't get that.
> 
> Adding a derived HttpConnectionManager didn't help.  I derived from
> SimpleHttpConnectionManager, just adding a releaseConnection() method
> that closes the connection.  I added a print statement to the method to
> make sure it got there.
> 
> There must be something else that causes the first connection on the
> thread to be slower than the 2nd-Nth connections.
> 

I suspect that something is likely to be SSL session caching.

Oleg

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Oleg Kalnichevski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:25 AM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Users List
> > Subject: RE: How to make HttpClient NOT send 
> > "Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive"?
> > 
> > On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 11:02 -0700, Karr, David wrote:
> > > Acknowledged.
> > > 
> > ....
> > > So, is there any way I can convince HttpClient to make the 
> > connection 
> > > go away between each test case (between each pair of requests, that 
> > > is)?  I figured getting it to not send the "Keep-Alive" 
> > header would 
> > > do it, but apparently you're saying that that is necessary 
> > for SSL to work.
> > > 
> > 
> > This is a whole different story. In order to disable 
> > connection persistence you can (1) add "Connection: close" to 
> > each request or (2) implement a custom connection manager (or 
> > extend an existing one) and close connections upon their 
> > release in the HttpConnectionManager#releaseConnection method
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > 
> > Oleg
> > 
> > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Oleg Kalnichevski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:27 AM
> > > > To: Jakarta Commons Users List
> > > > Subject: RE: How to make HttpClient NOT send
> > > > "Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive"?
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 10:09 -0700, Karr, David wrote:
> > > > > Well, the URL I'm going to is using https, but I'm not
> > > > doing anything
> > > > > specific with SSL in the HttpClient connection.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > That pretty much explains why you are seeing "Proxy-Connection:
> > > > Keep-Alive" headers with the traffic analyzer. These headers are 
> > > > sent with the HTTP CONNECT method because if the 
> > connection is not 
> > > > kept alive you would not be able to tunnel secure connections 
> > > > through the proxy
> > > > 
> > > > Hope this helps somewhat.
> > > > 
> > > > Oleg
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Oleg Kalnichevski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:27 AM
> > > > > > To: Jakarta Commons Users List
> > > > > > Subject: RE: How to make HttpClient NOT send
> > > > > > "Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive"?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 09:12 -0700, Karr, David wrote:
> > > > > > > I'm confused.  This seemed like it would work.  I added two 
> > > > > > > subclasses, one called "GetMethodNoKeepAlive", and 
> > the other 
> > > > > > > "PostMethodNoKeepAlive".  I created instances of those
> > > > instead of
> > > > > > > "GetMethod" and "PostMethod".  Each of the subclasses
> > > > has an empty
> > > > > > > "addProxyConnectionHeader" method, except for a print
> > > > > > statement saying
> > > > > > > it got there.  I monitored the execution in 
> > Ethereal.  When it 
> > > > > > > executed, I saw the print statements execute, but my timing
> > > > > > behavior
> > > > > > > made it look like it made no difference.  In my
> > > > Ethereal results,
> > > > > > > I still see the
> > > > > > > "Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive" when it connects to the
> > > > > > external host.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > David,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Are you using SSL tunneling by any chance? 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Oleg
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I even tried overriding the "shouldCloseConnection" method
> > > > > > to return
> > > > > > > true, in both classes.  Still no effect.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Oleg Kalnichevski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:00 AM
> > > > > > > > To: Jakarta Commons Users List
> > > > > > > > Cc: Karr, David
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: How to make HttpClient NOT send
> > > > > > > > "Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive"?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 15:04 -0700, Karr, David wrote:
> > > > > > > > > This may seem strange, but is it possible to make
> > > > > > > > HttpClient NOT send
> > > > > > > > > the "Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive" header?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > David,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > There's no elegant solution to this problem. The 
> > only way to 
> > > > > > > > work the problem around is to subclass method 
> > classes (such 
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > GetMethod,
> > > > > > > > PostMethod, and so on) and override the 
> > > > > > > > HttpMethodBase#addProxyConnectionHeader method
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Oleg
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I'm trying to write a test tool to load test an outside 
> > > > > > > > > web
> > > > > > > > service,
> > > > > > > > > but doing it in a way that is somewhat consistent with
> > > > > > an internal
> > > > > > > > > application that will be calling that outside web
> > > > service.  My
> > > > > > > > > test tool can send the message multiple times so we can 
> > > > > > > > > generate
> > > > > > > > statistics
> > > > > > > > > on the roundtrip time.  What I first noticed is that
> > > > > > when I send N
> > > > > > > > > messages on a thread, the 2nd-Nth message is faster
> > > > > > than the first
> > > > > > > > > one.  After examining the protocol behavior in
> > > > > > Ethereal, I noticed
> > > > > > > > > that HttpClient appears to be sending a 
> > "Proxy-Connection:
> > > > > > > > Keep-Alive" 
> > > > > > > > > header.  If I modified my test code to add a 
> > manual delay 
> > > > > > > > > (9-10
> > > > > > > > > seconds) between each message send, then the 2nd-Nth
> > > > > > > > message timings
> > > > > > > > > were about the same as the first one.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I'd prefer not to have that manual delay between
> > > > each message.  
> > > > > > > > > For the sake of getting consistent results, is
> > > > there any way
> > > > > > > > > to disable the sending of the "Proxy-Connection:
> > > > > > Keep-Alive" header?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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