Dear Christian, Please do not miss the point being made.
I took over as Chair in November 2014. That is just 2 months to the end of 2014. I am responsible for the 2014 Audited Accounts no passing the buck. I took the flak and heat in Tunis, and with dignity, without reminding anyone that I was just chair for 2 months. Does that make sense now? Rewind way back to 2012. Badru took over as Chair in August 2012. He should take responsibility for 2012 and 2013, and not pass it. I will ignore the other usual innuendoes regarding Board vs Community. Cheers. Sunday. On 24/11/2015 01:29, Bope Domilongo Christian wrote: > Dear all, > > I honestly think we should let the debate be open and transparent for the > interest and the development of the organization. Furthermore I do not > think the Board should not target single member of the community related to > his view and opinion which could be different. > > I have seen a lot of contribution from different members of communities > which I really appreciate in order to improve what need to be improve > "there will be always room for improvement. I do thing the Board should > accept others view and critics not targeting specific member. > > Finally I will advocate a respectful open debate professional. > > Speaking on my own capacity > > Regards > On 24 Nov 2015 6:26 am, "Sunday Folayan" <sunday.fola...@afrinic.net> wrote: > >> Dear Badru, >> >> AFRINIC History is not hidden and should not be craftily re-written in >> emails such as these. >> >> You were elected to the Board in May 2012 during AFRINIC-16 at Banjul. >> http://afrinic.net/en/library/news/735-afrinic-elects-new-board-members >> >> You were elected Chair of the Board in August 2012. >> http://afrinic.net/en/library/news/307-main-news-page >> >> The Board met f2f under your watch at AFRINIC-17 in November 2012 in >> Khartoum, Sudan. You did not inherit any budget. >> https://www.afrinic.net/images/doc/board_resolutions_2013.pdf >> >> The AGMM in Lusaka was during AFRINIC-18 in June 2013. You had chaired >> the Board for a whole year. >> https://www.afrinic.net/images/images/agmm_nom_210613_2.pdf The second >> to the last paragraph on page 3 should remind you. >> >> The AGMM in Djibouti at AfriNIC-20 in June 2014 was your second year >> running as Chair. >> >> You handed over to me during AfriNIC-21 at Mauritius in November 2014. >> >> You left the Board in June 2015 at AfriNIC-22 in Tunis, less that 6 >> months ago, after being Chair for over Two years and three months. >> >> I have now Chaired the Board for exactly one Year. >> >> I still accept responsibility for your diagnosis of the pathetic level >> of mediocrity in the current Board, the above is just to set the records >> straight. >> >> Cheers. >> >> SF. >> >> On 23/11/2015 21:08, Badru Ntege wrote: >>> Saul >>> >>> You obviously have a limited understanding of the history. Lusaka was my >> first board and the results being reported were for a budget I inherited. >> For decisions made by a previous board with the best of intentions. >>> If you read clearly my emails which I'm sure you have not you will see >> that half if not the majority of your email with all due respect is >> baseless. >>> I will thus not continue on personalisation since I do not recall any >> personalisation. Please go back and read all the emails very slowly. I >> have utmost respect for the individuals but does not mean you cannot point >> out what is wrong. >>> Your email is exactly the problem. Afrinic does not belong to any of us >> we will come and go and others will continue but when you think you cannot >> separate individual from the roles they do then we end up accepting >> everything for fear of hurting people's feelings. >>> Just take your time and read all the emails please the comment. >>> >>> Badru Ntege >>> CEO >>> NFT Consult Ltd >>> Www.Nftconsult.com >>> >>> “Vision without execution is hallucination.” >>> ― Thomas A. Edison >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 23 Nov 2015, at 10:35 pm, Saul <s...@enetworks.co.za> wrote: >>>> >>>> Badru, I can no longer refrain from commenting at your constant >> berating, >>>> non-constructive posts, waste of bandwidth, time and being critical of >> the >>>> board, community and its processes - something that you were in charge >> of >>>> until just short of a year ago and then still on the board until the >> last >>>> elections (6 months ago)- so this is something that you are very >>>> responsible for. >>>> >>>> You are constantly making accusations against members of the board in >> this >>>> public forum and with non-public knowledge and then plead NDA when asked >>>> for fact to backup your allegations. >>>> >>>> You are now alluding to your prowess at running a multi million dollar >>>> company, I refer you back to the Lusaka AGMM where AFRINIC, under your >>>> leadership ran at a loss and the financials were late. When questioned >>>> about what you were going to do to rectify the issue, the response was, >> we >>>> don't need to do anything different. Funny thing those financials have >>>> always been a sticky point recently... >>>> >>>> maybe where there is smoke there is fire, so let's stop this non-sense, >>>> we're IT people, like logs, facts don't lie, so lets get these current, >>>> correctly audited financials and see what status AFRINIC has been left >>>> in. >>>> >>>> I am not interested in a slinging match, so lets keep the mails on this >>>> list factual and constructive >>>> >>>> Saul >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Badru Ntege [mailto:badru.nt...@nftconsult.com] >>>> Sent: 23 November 2015 05:01 PM >>>> To: Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> >>>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; >>>> AfriNIC Discuss <members-disc...@afrinic.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] AFRINIC Update 23rd >>>> November 2015 >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Randy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/23/15, 5:17 PM, "Randy Bush" <ra...@psg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> :-) its because the packets are moving fantastically well, need to >>>>>> get the layer 9 to the same level. >>>>> never happen. layer nine involves all us overevolved funny monkeys. >>>>> >>>>> but, as one of the folk who helped get into the current hole, >>>> Another valid purely subjective view. One would have to understand all >>>> the dynamics but that would be very difficult in a world of limited >>>> transparency thus your subjective view is based on the pre-edited >>>> information that you have access to. >>>> >>>> So if one really understands the causes as opposed to gueses based on a >>>> particular agenda we could be having additive discussions. My emails >> try >>>> to be additive but if you look at the responses from the executive they >>>> never dissapoint at dragging the dialogue down. They have earned a >> record >>>> for consistency. >>>> >>>>> i am >>>>> always interested in your constructive suggestions on how to get out. >>>> Thank you. Just like many others I have a vested interest in the good of >>>> the community and will try my best. >>>> >>>>> i am not sure niggling about micro-timing of reports is attacking the >>>>> roots of the problem. >>>> On the contrary it is the root of the problem. It all starts from the >> lack >>>> of order and dedication. We leave in a world of last minute delivery. >> (on >>>> this one trust me I know.) So we are ticking boxes without focusing on >>>> the core. >>>> >>>>> otoh, i do look forward to a thorough audit, governance committee, >>>>> etc. >>>> We all do. I hope your patience has the resilience needed for the >> current >>>> modus operandus. >>>> >>>>> i am patient and i trust the current >>>>> executive. >>>>> >>>>> randy >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>>> Community-Discuss@afrinic.net >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Members-Discuss mailing list >>>> members-disc...@afrinic.net >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Members-Discuss mailing list >>> members-disc...@afrinic.net >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Members-Discuss mailing list >> members-disc...@afrinic.net >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Members-Discuss mailing list > members-disc...@afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss
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