On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Andrew Alston
<andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jackson for your permission for me to speak, its hugely appreciated.

:-)

> Anyway, I'm off to have a nice drink and worry about things that actually 
> matter :)

On a more serious note :- yes theres freedom of speech and expression.
Let this not be freedom of abuse and mocking others.

Let us exercise good judgement and not underestimate power of words.
Words can incite immense hatred, violence, or utter and extreme peace
and harmony. Dont ridicule with anger just because someone disagrees
with you ideologically on an issue. Dont raise your voice and gesture
with anger and disgust over a trivial matter that can be solved with
simple, respectful and harmonious dialogue. However much smarter you
think you are than the individual(s) you are dialoguing with.

You see when you mock, insult and belittle someone under the guise of
freedom of expression, that person and all of his/her friends
colleagues and sympathizers might behave the same towards you. And
yours likewise. And the community will NEVER converge on issues of
mutual benefit.

Enjoy your weekend and take it easy on that nice drink ;-)

>
> Andrew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jackson Muthili [mailto:jacksonmu...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 16 September 2016 13:21
> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>
> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Andrew Alston 
> <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
>> It also worries me that people seem to restrict what OTHERS say.
>>
>> If Owen feels like he wishes to comment on something – he is as free
>> to do so as anyone here is free to say anything.
>
> Has anyone restricted or stopped another from expressing themselves?
>
>> Why do you wish to censor some members of the community?  If you don’t
>> like what they say – feel free to ignore it.
>
> I agree. Just as Alan has chosen to ignore Badrus emails.
>
>> It’s the same way it annoys me when people come to the floor in a PDP
>> meeting and go “I THINK THIS DISCUSSION SHOULD END AND THIS POLICY
>> SHOULD BE SCRAPPED RIGHT NOW”
>>
>> And “WHY ARE WE ENTERTAINING THIS POLICY IT HAS HAD NO COMMENTS SO ITS
>> NOT SUPPORTED”
>
> There you go. It annoys you. And that's why others have always let you stand 
> in the meeting and belittle and disparage others you dont like or agree with. 
> its a free world after all.
>
>> Ignoring the process that specifically lays out a way things are
>> supposed to go.
>>
>> Here is a big hint – don’t like something, you’re free to ignore it,
>> or, in this case, free to bitch and whine about it – but honestly,
>> whining about things because you don’t like what someone says without
>> adding anything constructive to the debate just indicates a level of
>> insecurity and is pretty boring.
>>
>> And well – that’s me exercising my freedom of speech and if you don’t
>> what I’ve said here, you’re free to ignore it, or whine some more, not
>> like it makes a difference to me.
>
> Exactly my point. Speak up freely. You are even free to abuse the docility of 
> a community and belittle them as you wish. After all, you are exercising your 
> freedom of speech.
>
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