+1 @Alain

Regards

Arnaud

2016-09-19 19:56 GMT+00:00 ALAIN AINA <alain.a...@wacren.net>:

> Hi,
>
> Let’s fix the process and better organise this critical review of the
> bylawsl. I do support the idea of a committee .
>
> —Alain
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Bope Domilongo Christian <
> christianb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear CEO,
>
> [speaking as a member of the community]
>
> Following last week discussion on the accountability review and others
> points raised by the community which was not in your original document,
> here my response.
>
>
> 1.  *On the Accountability Review.*
>
> This review is from an independent AFRINIC's accountability review which
> identified areas need to be improved. Improving RIR accountability is very
> important in this context of IANA stewardship transition where the
> community will be exercising important role in the oversight of the IANA
> functions.
>
> So it is very crucial that the community gives this discussion the
> required attention and the consensual approach is more needed.
>
> It will be unfortunate if we did not follow these important improvements
> due to lack of consensus.
>
> *2. on the Process*
>
> It was expected that the community discuss, express view and concern
> thereafter the Leadership will do his best effort to build consensus.
> Consensus here is strictly in the sense of RIR practices mean The Rough
> Consensus Model *[1]*.
>
> Ideally, people shall be encourage to comment on the list for the sake of
> archive and off list contribution should be discouraged and not accepted.
>
> That why some members of the community suggested the creation of a
> committee to lead the process.
>
>
> *3. On the discussion.*
>
> Community has expressed views on each points. As expected there were
> convergences and divergences. For example, points 3,4, 5 had active and
> intensive discussions while reading may sound like profound disagreement.
> We shall now entire to the consensus building mode by opening the
> disagreement views and addressing one by one then we'll build ROUGH
> CONSENSUS.
>
> Another example, on point 11, there was no objection, but some suggestions
> even propose more such as "Registered Members only MUST never amend the
> bylaws, ..." and The proposed amendment should be published not less than
> 60 days and not more than 90 days before, with the provisions for more
> members to comment online and in any meeting held during the consultation
> period"
>
> *4. On the other points.*
>
> Beyond the 12 points, some areas of improvements were suggested.
>
> For example, https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2016-
> June/000350.html lists some of the points
>
> *[1]* https://www.nro.net/about-the-nro/rir-accountability on section 1.4
>
>
> Regards,
> Bope
>
> On 19 September 2016 at 17:03, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.
> com> wrote:
>
>> I agree with the sentiments as echoed by Boubakar below.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Mike Silber <silber.m...@gmail.com>
>> *Reply-To: *General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net
>> >
>> *Date: *Monday, 19 September 2016 at 10:39
>> *To: *General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>
>> *Cc: *"members-disc...@afrinic.net" <members-disc...@afrinic.net>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws
>> changes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18 Sep 2016, at 23:44, Boubakar Barry <boubakar.ba...@wacren.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> …
>>
>>
>>
>> We can of course think of advantages we can give to associate members  to
>> acknowledge their commitment and support. But I would not support giving
>> voting rights to associate members. I would rather be for removing this
>> membership category instead.
>>
>>
>>
>> Boubakar +1
>>
>>
>>
>>
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