Hello Dewole, Don’t you think that it is the role of the co-chairs to tavoid the +1 and -1 and drive the process to consensus?
With Regards. Serge IlungaCell: +243814443160Skype: sergekbkR.D.Congo-------- Original message --------From: Dewole Ajao <[email protected]> Date: 10/26/2016 08:57 (GMT+01:00) To: Omo Oaiya <[email protected]>, General Discussions of AFRINIC <[email protected]> Cc: "AfriNIC RPD MList." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [rpd] Accountability assessment - PDP review? Thank you for your inputs, Omo (and others). Each of the draft policy proposals at http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals is a solution to an existing or foreseen problem as observed from the authors' viewpoint(s). To my knowledge, all proposals updated by their authors after the last public policy meeting have been duly returned to the mailing list by the co-chairs for further discussion. The quality of the resulting discourse is however dependent on the authors, the rest of the PDWG, and willingness to engage on the (granular) substance of the proposals rather than personal or ideological differences. At any point in time, the Policy Development Working Group (i.e. all who CHOOSE to participate on the RPD mailing list and/or in person at the public meetings) has the opportunity to provide feedback on the policy proposals. Authors of policy proposals can choose to incorporate the feedback received to produce an improved proposal that the majority of the community is (more) amenable to. I recommend that as a community, we should: seek solutions that are (roughly) acceptable rather than seek to impose our point of view (no matter how correct they may be) on everyone else. ALL OF US (policy authors or not) should channel our input toward solutions that build consensus rather than simplistically adding +1s and -1s on completely divergent points of view. Since we (supposedly) all have the best interests of the AFRINIC community at heart, we should seek to unite rather than divide. Operating in this manner, we would find that #3 and #4 as listed in the preceding emails are actually non-issues. Regards, Dewole Ajao. PDWG co-Chair On 25/10/2016 09:05, Omo Oaiya wrote: Dear Community, I am not suggesting there is a problem with the PDP per se or criticising the co-chairs, past or present, but recent discussions on accountability and co-authoring a policy proposal has resulted in my taking a closer look at the PDP and its requirements. The current PDP (http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/251-policy-development-process-in-the-afrinic-service-region-afpub-2010-gen-005) adopted in 2010 specified improvements from its predecessor. It lists fixing the following issues amongst others as incentive: the case of PDP moderators inability to attend public policy meetings the lack of appeal mechanisms against moderators actions issues fixed on mailing list being reopened at face to face meetings weakening the decision making process. consensus building process leading to scenario where opinions expressed at face to face have more weight that the ones expressed on mailing list While the new PDP succeeded in addressing #1 and #2, it has not addressed #3 and #4. The current PDP introduced the PDWG with co-chairs to perform the "administrative functions” of the group. - It did not describe what these administrative functions were. - It did not prescribe criteria for co-chairs selection or an election mechanism. - It also did not describe the process for determining “rough consensus”. As a result, we have seen: - co-chairs candidates who could be more familiar with PDP and Internet Number Resource management. - insufficient moderation of policy proposal discussions on the mailing list and at face to face meetings leading to endless repetitive discussions - inability of co-chairs to determine consensus encouraging abuse of the process with some people persistently opposing proposals and stalling progress with insubstantial arguments causing unnecessary delay and frustration The policy discussions at AFRINIC-24 is a perfect illustration. Another easy example is that since AFRINIC-24, there has been little discussion on proposals which were sent back on mailing list for further discussions as per meeting minutes (http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/archive/ppm-minutes/1847-afrinic-24-pdwgpdp-minutes) and no action from the working group co-chairs. **Some questions for the community and co-chairs** - How do we fix issues #3 and #4? - Will the proposals returned to the list be presented in AFRINIC-25? if yes, what will be the discussion points be and for which expected outcomes? -Omo _______________________________________________ RPD mailing list [email protected] https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd
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