+1. A practical approach that could yield good results. Last thing we want Afrinic to do is to complicate the situation with empty rhetoric and make an already bad situation worse.
Omo > On 13 Apr 2017, at 12:11, Noah <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Seun, > > Indeed Tutu has raise some great pointers and in addition to your centiments, > i am of the view this kind of approach is more fruitful ref: internet > shutdowns and censorship. > > I suppose AFRINIC has been in the past engaging governments through the AFGWG > and i would be keep to get some insights from AFRINIC regarding the same. > > Meanwhile, could AFRINIC organise a BoF during the upcoming meeting where all > those who will be on the ground can discuss some of these pertinent issues > openly. We could have a panel discussion and discuss this issue way better. > > AFRINIC could also invite some of the government officials and other internet > leaders to this kind of BoF. > > I believe a BoF is one way for AFRINIC to be proactive in engaging the wider > community. > > Also we could get folk from countries where the internet has ever been > disconnected including cameroon to share more ideas on how to approach this > issue. > > Noah > > > On 13 Apr 2017 12:24 p.m., "Seun Ojedeji" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > <Taking this to the community list, where it belongs> > > Dear Community, > > Tutu raises a critical point and I also strongly agree that we should let > this discussion live on. > > AFRINIC sure presently have provided various avenues to engage government and > as i think there seem to be a slow but steady improvement in govt > participation. I wonder how AFRINIC can futher leverage on this to drive down > the point about why government needs to stop considering a shutdown of > internet or certain service as an option. May be good to hear from staff how > participation of the AFGWG has been so far - especially to try to identify > challenges to participation and how to resolve them. > > One other thing that comes to mind is whether AFRINIC can be pro-active > instead of re-active i.e they are made aware of the planned act and issue > strong statement against it hoping that it will get to the ears of relevant > authorities and get them to reconsider. This may also be effective if the > relationship between AFRINIC and the AU (and regional bodies like ECOWAS, > EAC, COMESA etc) is strengthened as that can serve as a channel of > communication to the respective governments. > > That said, I will like to pause on the role of AFRINIC as it also seem to me > that the role of ISPs is quite critical in this. Traffic distribution > structure/topology varies by countries hence there is some level of > dependencies that would exist and I wonder if ISPs can leverage upon that as > well. Also there are situations where government would ask for shutdown of > certain services of the internet(like social media) so connectivity still > exist to reduce the outcry, perhaps in those cases, ISPs could also make it > clear that its either a total shutdown or nothing and then hope that the > country's community/citizens will notice and be loud enough to get government > to change their order. > > Just a few ideas i thought I should throw in here since we seem to have an > understanding as a community that an RIR policy cannot be a way to address > this very important issue. > > Regards > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Tutu Ngcaba <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Dear the Afrinic Ltd, > > Since you put out a statement a few days ago condemning internet shutdown > problem which is a serious issue. > > Can you please take this issue up and drive it. I request that the Afrinic > shall and should make this as an angenda topic also in meetings to come. > > We should also involve all isoc chapters in all our countries. > > We can discuss the internet shutdown under the Africann and community mailing > list and engage all members but not through policy. > > This will make the statement the Afrinic made as about shutdown as the main > agenda and even we use avenues like the Afrinic AFGWG. > > Multistake holder meeting is also important for engaging our governements. > > So i believe we can all take this discussion to community and Africann > mailing list and the Afrinic can engage the people. > > This way we can get all concerned african people together and find wiser ways > of engaging our governments. > > Most African country economy depend on agriculture and not Internet. So > internet is nothing to governments when they chose to shutdown temporaly > since to them shutdown has only small term economic impact that is why some > do it in most cases to contain chaos or riots. > > Let us keep in mind that some countries presidents are in power for so many > years and the government can do anything. > > So simple questions like why do some governments do it are important. > > Awareness and education is more important not policy. > > Best Regards, > > Tutu Ngcaba > Kwazulu Techno Hubs > South Africa > > > _______________________________________________ > RPD mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd > <https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd> > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Seun Ojedeji, > Federal University Oye-Ekiti > web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng/> > Mobile: +2348035233535 <> > alt email: <http://goog_1872880453/>[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action! > > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > <https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss> > > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss — Omo Oaiya CTO/Directeur Technique, WACREN Mobile: +234 806 4522778, +221 784 305 224 Skype: kodion http://www.wacren.net
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