Colleagues,
This is a very reasonable proposition, consistent with the principles
that guide us.
I shall bring it to the attention of the Board, to explore ways that
AFRINIC through the AfGWG can galvanize our engagement with Governments
for the common good.
Best.
Sunday Folayan.
On 13/04/2017 14:30, Noah wrote:
Hi Omo
Yes I would rather AFRINIC engaged all stakeholder including in
members and setup say a panel of different stakeholders to deliberate
this issue in a multistakeholder platform.
Which is why i was of the opinion that in the upcoming AIS meeting,
the issue be added to the AFRINIC agenda.
This is a much better approach for such a non-technical issue. Because
even when we carefully examine the motive behind internet shutdowns
and censorship, its so complicated for a mere policy to even offer a
lasting solution and different government have had different reasons
for taking such measures.
So AFRINIC engaging the community at large and governments through
AFGWG we can find solutions and Seun also shared some practical ideas....
Noah
On 13 Apr 2017 2:17 p.m., "Omo Oaiya" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
+1. A practical approach that could yield good results. Last
thing we want Afrinic to do is to complicate the situation with
empty rhetoric and make an already bad situation worse.
Omo
On 13 Apr 2017, at 12:11, Noah <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Seun,
Indeed Tutu has raise some great pointers and in addition to your
centiments, i am of the view this kind of approach is more
fruitful ref: internet shutdowns and censorship.
I suppose AFRINIC has been in the past engaging governments
through the AFGWG and i would be keep to get some insights from
AFRINIC regarding the same.
Meanwhile, could AFRINIC organise a BoF during the upcoming
meeting where all those who will be on the ground can discuss
some of these pertinent issues openly. We could have a panel
discussion and discuss this issue way better.
AFRINIC could also invite some of the government officials and
other internet leaders to this kind of BoF.
I believe a BoF is one way for AFRINIC to be proactive in
engaging the wider community.
Also we could get folk from countries where the internet has ever
been disconnected including cameroon to share more ideas on how
to approach this issue.
Noah
On 13 Apr 2017 12:24 p.m., "Seun Ojedeji" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
<Taking this to the community list, where it belongs>
Dear Community,
Tutu raises a critical point and I also strongly agree that
we should let this discussion live on.
AFRINIC sure presently have provided various avenues to
engage government and as i think there seem to be a slow but
steady improvement in govt participation. I wonder how
AFRINIC can futher leverage on this to drive down the point
about why government needs to stop considering a shutdown of
internet or certain service as an option. May be good to hear
from staff how participation of the AFGWG has been so far -
especially to try to identify challenges to participation and
how to resolve them.
One other thing that comes to mind is whether AFRINIC can be
pro-active instead of re-active i.e they are made aware of
the planned act and issue strong statement against it hoping
that it will get to the ears of relevant authorities and get
them to reconsider. This may also be effective if the
relationship between AFRINIC and the AU (and regional bodies
like ECOWAS, EAC, COMESA etc) is strengthened as that can
serve as a channel of communication to the respective
governments.
That said, I will like to pause on the role of AFRINIC as it
also seem to me that the role of ISPs is quite critical in
this. Traffic distribution structure/topology varies by
countries hence there is some level of dependencies that
would exist and I wonder if ISPs can leverage upon that as
well. Also there are situations where government would ask
for shutdown of certain services of the internet(like social
media) so connectivity still exist to reduce the outcry,
perhaps in those cases, ISPs could also make it clear that
its either a total shutdown or nothing and then hope that the
country's community/citizens will notice and be loud enough
to get government to change their order.
Just a few ideas i thought I should throw in here since we
seem to have an understanding as a community that an RIR
policy cannot be a way to address this very important issue.
Regards
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Tutu Ngcaba
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear the Afrinic Ltd,
Since you put out a statement a few days ago condemning
internet shutdown problem which is a serious issue.
Can you please take this issue up and drive it. I request
that the Afrinic shall and should make this as an angenda
topic also in meetings to come.
We should also involve all isoc chapters in all our
countries.
We can discuss the internet shutdown under the Africann
and community mailing list and engage all members but not
through policy.
This will make the statement the Afrinic made as about
shutdown as the main agenda and even we use avenues like
the Afrinic AFGWG.
Multistake holder meeting is also important for engaging
our governements.
So i believe we can all take this discussion to community
and Africann mailing list and the Afrinic can engage the
people.
This way we can get all concerned african people together
and find wiser ways of engaging our governments.
Most African country economy depend on agriculture and
not Internet. So internet is nothing to governments when
they chose to shutdown temporaly since to them shutdown
has only small term economic impact that is why some do
it in most cases to contain chaos or riots.
Let us keep in mind that some countries presidents are in
power for so many years and the government can do anything.
So simple questions like why do some governments do it
are important.
Awareness and education is more important not policy.
Best Regards,
Tutu Ngcaba
Kwazulu Techno Hubs
South Africa
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