Ok – but Janvier – at that point – this doesn’t make much sense – because – 
under the rules (see a resolution published I believe in 2014 or 2015), the 
moment you disclose to any member – it may as well be disclosed to all – since 
any document disclosed to an individual not bound by the AFRINIC NDA is 
considered in the public domain (I can find the exact resolution number and 
give you a link to it if you want)

So – fine – let someone ask for it let it be disclosed and let them publish it 
– either way – the point is – the community has a right to see it

Andrew


From: Janvier NGNOULAYE [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 23 June 2017 18:58
To: Andrew Alston <[email protected]>
Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]
Subject: RE: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

Dear Andrew and all,
I hope you will get me well here.
" the member base can see the document" does it mean those documents should be 
published to the community? I think this clause into the bylaw requests to any 
member to access to the documents when he/she asks. Based on this I can't see 
any false in transparency. There is no need to change the bylaw on this, but to 
give a correct reading on it.
So Trust and Patience are the key values the community should build vis à vis 
the leaders of the Company, of cause in respect of the bylaw and company Act, 
with the correct reading.
Nice week-end to All.
Janvier Ngnoulaye


Le 23 juin 2017 16:14, "Andrew Alston" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> a 
écrit :
Janvier,

Sorry – but let me put this another way –

Confidence is a product of transparency – and when the bylaws of the company 
say that the member base can see documents – we either change the bylaws to say 
they can’t – or when requested to – the documents get disclosed as per the 
bylaws.

A few weeks ago – I asked this community about transparency in the financials 
and more transparency about what we wanted to see – I was met with curious 
silence from most quarters – and I’d really like to see more discussion on that 
as well.

The reality is – we’ve come a LONG way in the last few years in terms of 
transparency – but have we come far enough?  I don’t believe so.  Furthermore – 
to be quite frank – while I trust the management of today – I have no idea what 
the management will be like in the future – and therefore – it is necessary to 
lay the groundwork and set the precedents that force on going long term 
sustainable transparency.  So – if the bylaws grant the access to things – let 
it be shared – there should be nothing to hide anyway – because after all – if 
there are problems – this community can sometimes assist in finding solutions 
to those problems and discussing them openly.  However, if there are problems 
and they are dealt with behind closed doors with the lights off – well – that 
is not exactly conducive to trust is it?

Andrew


From: Janvier NGNOULAYE [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: 23 June 2017 18:06
To: Badru Ntege <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources



Le 23 juin 2017 15:31, "Badru Ntege" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :


Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Jun 2017, at 15:13, Sunday Folayan 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> The Auditor's Report is already published along with the Financial 
> Statements. The Board believes that the Management letter is a confidential 
> document.
Why would the management letter be . Confidential????

Badru, because it is a management letter. Take it like this. It is a common 
principle in management.
People or community should have a little confidence to the people they elected 
to carry the business of the company.
Regards,
/Janvier
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