Oh, and I forgot to add, to all the statements I agreed with in the previous 
email about things that I did - +1, x 10000000 (since that seems to be the 
instruction given to others)

Andrew

From: ALAIN AINA <aal...@trstech.net>
Date: Saturday, 22 July 2017 at 01:28
To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Confusion...


Andrew,

Not so easy to forget. Even if you do some of us do remember and the archives 
are available:

a) There was a Mr Alston  before  board mandate
b)There was a Mr Alston  2014 -2017
c) there is a Mr. Alston since AIS2017

The a) was promising, full of energy, Mr Solution to everything, the anti-RPKI, 
etc….

and b) came in and :

* Promoted  AFRINIC governance as Top-Down
* Promoted Trust-only, no-accontabiliy and no-transparency
* Company act evangelist
* Promoted AFRINIC as 8+1 people(registered members)  private company. Other 
members have limited powers, Community has none
* Opposed most of the community proposals to improve accountability during the 
last accountability review
* Supported  adopting changes  to bylaws for accountability review by vote on 
multiple resolutions instead of working out  a coherent consensual  draft 
bylaws.
* Opposed Board member recall by members and community
* Claimed to have rescued AFRINIC
* Authored some controversial policy proposals
* etc..

And now, welcome c) who seem confused and lost:

  *Dealing  with simple community member position subject  to past board 
member's NDA and reserve obligations
  * Suffering from the Top-down  governance  enjoyed  during  b)
  *Want all the powers to members and even Community
 * Want 300% transparency
  *Want 400% accountability
  * Want PDP appeal procedure put in place
  * Want a ASO members recall  procedure
  * Want Mgmt audits published.
  * Describe the rescued AFRINIC as the financially weakest RIR
  * Concerned  by the membership fees compared to RIPE NCC
 * Etc….

I could easily understand your status and confusion. Welcome back inside the 
community. Hope you can manage.

—Alain


On 12 Jul 2017, at 06:40, Andrew Alston 
<andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:

I realized after it was pointed out that this had not gone to the list - so 
re-sending

Andrew

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From: Andrew Alston 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 08:08
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Confusion...
To: Sander Steffann <san...@steffann.nl<mailto:san...@steffann.nl>>, Marcus K. 
G. Adomey <mado...@hotmail.com<mailto:mado...@hotmail.com>>

Markus -

You say that I am in a different orbit - so let me state what orbit I am in -

I want total transparency - both on governance and financial issues
I want to know how the money we as members is being spent and that it is well 
spent and justified - particularly considering that for large members the fees 
as in excess of 20 times the costs paid by RIPE members
I want to be assured if our elected representatives are traveling on our dime - 
that the travel is justified and in the benefits of the members the 
organization is meant to serve
I want to be assured that the board and the executive are at all times 
adhearing to the bylaws which we, as members, approved
I want to be assured that the company operates to the letter of the law and to 
be assured that the actions they take do not create legal risk which may 
threaten the organization
I want to ensure that the policies of the organization actually contribute to 
the growth of internet penetration on the continent, and do not merely serve to 
protect isps, but actually serve the general population of our continent.
I want to ensure that the company is delivering on its mandate as clearly 
defined in section 3 of the bylaws.

That my friend - is my orbit - so - if we are in different orbits - please - 
tell me yours and how it conflicts with the above - explain it to me - after 
all - do we not operate on a principal that dialog solves problems and builds 
consensus?

Andrew

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