Andrew, thanks for your comments. 2018-09-28 14:22 GMT+02:00 Andrew Alston <[email protected]>:
> Coenraad, > > > > While personally as a member I don’t have a major issue with something > like this – there are certain fundamental questions that need to be asked > from my view point > > > > 1. How will the annual revenues of these entities be verified – will > they be submitting audited financials each and every year to qualify for > the discount? Without audited financials – what is to stop wholesale abuse > of a system like this? > > Of course this is only workable with audited - or at least financials reviewed by an industry professional, or whatever AfriNIC would accept as authoritative. > > 1. > 2. Would we not be better off looking at a flat fee structure across > ALL organizations (which would at current levels average out at less than > $4.5k per party to achieve current revenue levels with the current > membership base) > > This is more or less what fees would come to under the current structure. While this is a negligible amount for a large organization, it is prohibitive to the ones starting up - whom are in their formative years and *would be easier to influence into doing things the right way right from the start, as part of this community - which would be the ultimate purpose of this.* > 1. > 2. In one line you refer to revenues, it another line you refer to > annual profits. If we are working on revenue levels – that may be workable > – if we are working on profit levels – that simply isn’t. The reality is – > there are many LARGE organizations out there that have bad years – and turn > a net loss –I can show plenty of listed companies who have shown a net loss > come year end. So – this would need to be clarified as well > > My thoughts exactly, revenues is much more workable, although we were asked to include the other option. > > > Thoughts? > > > > Andrew > > > > > > *From:* Coenraad Loubser <[email protected]> > *Sent:* 28 September 2018 13:26 > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* S Moonesamy <[email protected]>; Bope Christian < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* [Community-Discuss] Spearheading Internet Development in > Africa / Late commentary on fee discussion > > > > Dear AfriNIC community > > According to the ITU (2017) Africa has 739 million individuals without > access to internet infrastructure. > > We write to you representing 70 individual community networks from 30 > African countries, most whom are not yet AfriNIC members, but who each have > part of the solution to making available access to these areas where there > is very little formal economic activity and where no alternative options > exist, and where the internet can play a vital enabling role. > > This letter has been under discussion during the past 4 months, and has > been the subject of almost 100 messages on external community networks > forums. > > > > There is a class of Internet Service Provider that is not recognized by > AfriNIC. In order to allow us to draw in their resources to help building > out the invaluable resource that is the internet, as part of the AfriNIC > community, we would like to discuss a mutually beneficial proposal that will > play a huge role in setting up the next generation of ISPs in Africa - and > promote > an excellent platform for ISP- and IPv6 training. > > > > We first contemplated proposing a definition for a Community Network or > Non-Profit ISP, but having also worked with many small and competent ISPs, > we recognize their challenges and the benefits that having them in this > community can bring. > > We would therefore like to propose, in line with simplest change possible, > the following additional amendment to the fee schedule that has been > under discussion: > > > 3.6.5 An entity with annual revenues less than USD 350 000 that is > required to register as an LIR, such as a Wireless User Group, Community > Network or ISP will qualify for an additional discount of 40%. > > > Basic modelling shows that this can potentially require AfriNIC to give up > up to $40k annually, but could yield a surplus in excess of $100k annually > after a few years as these networks mature. > > Alternately, a profit based model, which has not been explored as > thoroughly: > > > 3.6.5 An entity with annual profits of less than USD 100 000 that is > required to register as an LIR, such as a Wireless User Group, Community > Network or ISP, will qualify for a discount of 75%. > > Regards > > > > -- > > Coenraad Loubser > > Co Authored by Dr. Carlos Rey-Moreno > > > > Office: +27 (0)43 555 2028 <+27435552028> > > Mobile: +27 (0) 73 772 1223 <+27737721223> > Skype: coenraad_loubser Twitter: @dagelf > > > > *Zenzeleni Networks NPC *zenzeleni.net > > - Best Innovation with Social Impact Award winner, Innovation Bridge 2017 > > - Community Favorite, Mozilla Equal Rating Innovation Challenge 2017 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxTPSWMX26M > -- Coenraad Loubser Office: <+27435552028> +27 (0)43 555 2028 <+27435552028> Mobile: +27 (0) 73 772 1223 <+27737721223> Skype: coenraad_loubser Twitter: @dagelf *Zenzeleni Networks NPC *zenzeleni.net - Best Innovation with Social Impact Award winner, Innovation Bridge 2017 - Community Favorite, Mozilla Equal Rating Innovation Challenge 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxTPSWMX26M
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