> On Dec 12, 2018, at 08:33 , Gregoire Ehoumi <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> The point makes perfect sense.  Any organisation holding IP's from AFRINC is 
> only doing so in trust and not their property,  It can be recalled back at 
> any time if/when  AFRINIC believes that they are not being used for the 
> reasons and purposes for which they were allocated.  Especially in this arena 
> where technology and organisations can change.  The PDP and this Review 
> policy is just a mean in which AFRINIC can enforce its RSA, specifically 
> Section 4 -C - (iii) 

Actually, it isn’t. AfriNIC can enforce the RSA without this review policy. 
This review policy doesn’t enable AfriNIC to do anything AfriNIC can’t already 
do.

What it does do is (potentially) force AfriNIC to take on additional tasks to 
conduct investigations into reported violations of the RSA to determine whether 
or not the proffered accusation constitutes credible evidence or not. It places 
no limits on the number of such investigations which can be forced by 
disgruntled members of the community. It places no hard limits on the amount of 
time and effort this may require on the part of resource members defending 
against such allegations, even if they are found to be baseless except  that if 
a member is put through a “full review” (which is not well defined in the 
policy), that member cannot be subjected to such process again for some period 
of time.

> This policy only gives guidelines as to how this can be implemented in a fair 
> and transparent process.  How can you or any other African be against this. 
> If a member already goes through an evaluation process when acquiring 
> resources why should the member be opposed to a periodic review.

It’s neither fair nor transparent. It’s expensive and burdensome for large 
organizations while remaining fairly light-weight for small organizations. It’s 
a wide open vector for those who wish to launch a form of denial of service 
attack against some member organizations and/or AfriNIC itself.

I do not believe anyone has expressed opposition to legitimate periodic review. 
This proposal isn’t that. This proposal wants to pretend that it is that, but 
in fact, it is something very different. A carefully engineered attack on 
larger organizations by smaller ones.

> The conflict comes because a particular member is fighting  deadly such a 
> proposal and people  speaking on their personal capacity and opposing the 
> proposal on the PDP list and at meetings, have work relationship with that 
> member. They are conflicted and so their opinions must be taken into context.

You, like the other person who accused me directly of a conflict of interest 
are mistaken sir. You are mistaken in your definition of conflict of interest 
and you are mistaken in your belief about how I arrived at my position on this 
proposal.

First, I opposed this proposal well before I began any working relationship 
with Larus.

Second, if I felt this were good policy, even if I thought it would be bad for 
Larus, I’d be supporting it. In this case, it’s not.

Third, to the best of my knowledge, there are several people who have voiced 
opposition who have no relationship whatsoever with Larus. I can think of at 
least two other resource members who fit this description and have expressed 
similar opposition without doing any research, just off the top of my head.

In order for a person to have a conflict of interest, several things must be 
present:

        1.      They must have a greater level of influence in the policy 
outcome than any general member of the polity.
                (e.g. co-chair, board member, etc.)
        2.      They or their organization must unduly benefit from one 
particular possible outcome more so than any
                general other party is likely to.
                (e.g. a collection of small organizations who believe they are 
more likely to be able to benefit from reclaimed
                IP space being available to them for a longer period in the 
future if the policy passes)

In the case of the PDP, having an interest in the outcome of the policy process 
as a member of the community does not constitute a conflict of interest. In 
theory, all resource members have some level of interest in the outcome of 
every PDP. Since all resource members are able to participate on equal footing 
in the PDP, this interest is not a conflict of interest against their 
obligations to the community because they do not meet the first test above. 
Their influence over the PDP is no greater than any other resource member or 
any other interested person.

Further, if your statements claiming that this proposal is a fair and equitable 
way to conduct reviews were true (it isn’t), then, the second test for conflict 
would also fail as the proposed policy would then not have an undue benefit or 
impact on said resource holders beyond what it would have on any other resource 
holders in the community.

So… Yes, the argument about conflicts of interest is non-sensical.

Owen

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