@Ali

When you say the “community has lost faith” do you speak for the billion 
African  users, the 1700 members,  the over 500 currently attending the 
conference ???

I find it a very general statement and abit of clarification might help

Regards





From: Ali Hussein <a...@hussein.me.ke>
Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 12:49 PM
To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>
Cc: "aleruchich...@yahoo.com" <aleruchich...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

This is a symptom of the bigger problem that afflicts Afrinic. My thoughts:-

1. Seems to me (perception really that may not be reality) that Afrinic is on 
auto-pilot and the software operating it is corrupted.
2. The board is missing in action.
3. The community has basically lost faith in the institution.
4. There have been accusations for some time about some 'hijacking' that is in 
the offing. Unsubstantiated of course but there none-the-less.

This situation continues to deteriorate. As a critical resource for the 
continent, what can we do to salvage the situation?  Should we continue to 
accuse each other or jointly find a solution?

Will Afrinic collapse on our watch?


Ali Hussein

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On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:19 PM Andrew Alston 
<andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
I have another question actually.

Can anyone confirm that this individual actually physically exists and is not 
the twisted alter ego of some other person who does not have the guts to 
actually stand up and show themselves?

In the original email – they claim to have just arrived in Kampala – yet – 
speaking to people on the ground – I’ve yet to find a single person who has met 
this individual – and he has yet to have the courage to show himself at the 
microphone from what I can see – hence – I find myself wondering if this person 
really does exist, and if so, why they can be so cowardly as to make such 
spurious accusations without being willing to show face.

Andrew


From: aleruchi chuku via RPD <r...@afrinic.net<mailto:r...@afrinic.net>>
Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2019 10:51
To: benjamin.le...@gmail.com<mailto:benjamin.le...@gmail.com>
Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC 
<community-discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>>; rpd >> 
AfriNIC Resource Policy <r...@afrinic.net<mailto:r...@afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

Benjamin
I will love to see you stand tall at the open Mic and say all you have said on 
the mailing list today.
Remember that true courage is not hidden.

Aleruchi
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 8:41 am, Benjamin Ledoh
<benjamin.le...@gmail.com<mailto:benjamin.le...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Aleruchi,

> How much were you paid to do this?

The pay I get is the pride that will help me stand tall in this community.

Benjiloh


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 5:11 AM aleruchi chuku 
<aleruchich...@yahoo.com<mailto:aleruchich...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Dearest Benjamin

Wow!!
On the morning of an election day. All to cause bad feeling within the 
community.
How much were you paid to do this?
I hope its worth it.

No true Nigerian will do what you just did.

Aleruchi

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On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 1:44 am, Benjamin Ledoh
<benjamin.le...@gmail.com<mailto:benjamin.le...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Community,

I have arrived in Kampala this yesterday and the intelligence I have gathered 
since then is so alarming that I have decided to send this email to call on my 
fellow Nigerians (not all) and brother Ugandans  (not all) conscience to put 
Africa first. To put the interest of this community first so that we keep our 
Internet Resources for the development of Africa and for the future generation.

From the intelligence I have gathered, two groups are working tirelessly to 
hijack AFRINIC resources. The obvious consequences are the close down of 
AFRINIC and the appropriation of the Internet Resources of our region. If these 
happen, it implies that whenever an organization in Africa needs IPv4, IPv6 or 
ASN, it has to get it in the black markets where those resources would be very 
expensive perhaps not affordable too or to go to RIPE or ARIN. The two groups 
are, on one side, white South African led by Mr. Andrew Alston of Liquid 
Telecom with their allies Mark Elkins and Owen Delong, and on the other side, 
Lu with his Foundation from China.

WHAT ARE ISSUES AT HAND?

The British/South Africa Mark Elkins, the candidate of election, wants to 
become the co-chair of PDWG. His mission as co-chair is to push for the policy 
“IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope)” proposed by Spanish 
or Latino Jordi Palet Martinez. The issue with this policy is clear. There is 
no more IPv4 in the other registry, only AFRINIC has IPv4 in its pool. The 
policy of Jordy has the hidden agenda is to enable the South African (not all 
of them) mafia to ransack the AFRINIC. It is not a secret that Mark Elkins was 
one of those who oppose the creation of AFRINIC. No wonder why his acolyte Owen 
Delong always defends him even if his is blatantly wrong. What is interesting 
yesterday was Owen with the help of some Ugandans he recruited some boys and 
girls to come and vote for Mark Elkins and to support of oppose policies. They 
were brought by Owen himself who was instructing the AFRINIC registration desk 
in Sheraton Hotel to register them. When they were asked about what they are 
coming to do, they said they are coming to vote for IPv4. I personally 
witnessed this.

For my own brothers Nigerians, three of them were sponsored by Lu Heng and his 
foundation for the post of the co-chair of PDWG. Moreover, the Chinese Lu Heng 
and his foundation have brought 30 participants or so through the coordination 
of Daniel Yakmut. Larus Cloud Service, the mother organization of Larus 
Foundation, has been allocated IPv4 address from AFRINIC. The fact is, Lurus 
Cloud is not using those IPv4 addresses located to him for the purpose of which 
the got them. Moreover, the reasons provided when he applied for those 
resources were lies. The instruction given to those sponsored are to
1 - to support the “IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope)” by 
Jordi Palet Martinez because they want to legalize their wrongdoing with the 
resources taken from AFRINIC.
2 - to oppose the “Internet Number Resources review by AFRINIC” by Arnaud 
Amelina and CO because this policy will expose them.
3 - to vote for Mark Elkins. The other three Nigerians have been used to split 
vote of the other candidate.

MY FELLOW NIGERIANS IN AIS-19, YOUR BEHAVIOR IS DESTROYING THIS COMMUNITY AND 
DISGRACING NIGERIANS BECAUSE OF YOUR PAROCHIAL INTEREST. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO 
STOP BEING SELFISH IN THIS COMMUNITY? STOP BEING AGENT OF EVIL, HISTORY IS 
RECORDING YOU NEGATIVELY.

As for the Moses Serugo, his case is pitiful and detrimental to this community. 
As a novice in this community he is sponsored by Lu Heng and foundation. 
According to my intelligence, he commented only once on PDP mailing list and 
attended only once the face to face meeting. He confessed that he does not what 
he is going for as co-chair of PDWG but what matters for him is the possibility 
to travel outside of Uganda. Regardless of the call to dissuade him to step 
down so that he can be groomed maybe for the next election and that the issues 
at hand are beyond his capability to deal with, he declined knowing that he has 
the upper hand over the other candidate because he is recruiting University of 
Makerere student to vote for him.  I don’t blame him because according my 
intelligence, the rules governing the selection of the co-chair has been 
diluted for novice like him to stand to election. BUT HE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT 
THIS COMMUNITY DOES NOT FORGIVE AND DOES NOT FORGET.

Dear community,  I have just received some fresh intelligence, I am going to 
authenticate them before I share them with you.

LET US PRAY FOR AFRINIC, LET US PRAY FOR OUR MOTHER AFRICA


Benjiloh
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