Actually, I think this is something to be done by Afrinic, with the help of PDP 
chairs and policy proposal authors. The goal is not to convince them about 
*any* policy proposal, just to have more open time for openly discussing them, 
and mainly oriented to newcomers, but not only.

 

I’ve actually suggested (several times) for the last couple of years, some of 
those activities, that I’ve suggested as well in other RIRs and have been 
implemented already, with a great success. Up to now, it has never been done, 
despite how much I’ve insisted (staff and co-chairs can confirm that I’ve once 
and again provided lots of those ideas).

 

Here is a copy & paste of an email about that with the staff:

 

… concrete actions some of the in every meeting:

    

    1) Setting up open sessions for discussion with policy proposal authors. 
The idea is that all the authors (willing to contribute) have a short 
explanation of each policy proposal (no slides, a common slide with titles of 
all policy proposals just for reference), and they can discuss openly with the 
participants. There is not any decision process here.

 

    In order to plan agenda, I suggest doing this after the session for 
newcomers and/or sponsored fellows, same meeting room, so the people don't need 
to move, make it as easier as possible for them. In LACNIC we did that on 
Sunday evening because most of the folks travel on the morning. Distances and 
flights aren't the same in this region, so we should consider that.

    

    2) Setting up specific tables for lunch for the same. Similar to above, so 
people with interest or questions about policy proposal, can sit down with 
authors to have a more open discussion.

    

    3) Group Dynamics. Take newcomers and other people interested in the PDP. 
One morning before the policy-day. Create 3-4 small groups depending on how 
many folks participate (may be more if there are more people, but you need one 
staff or co-chair for each group), and each group should work in 
"understanding" a different policy proposal, looking for pros-cons, and trying 
to "develop" consensus on it and then presenting shortly their results to all 
the groups. The idea is that they get used to the process and can bring their 
views to the policy day. As the previous ones, this is not a formal part of the 
PDP. But in LACNIC has been useful because new people get engaged in the list 
and in the mics of the meeting.

 

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 2/7/19 20:55, "Noah" <[email protected]> escribió:

 

 

On Tue, 2 Jul 2019, 17:11 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss, 
<[email protected]> wrote:

 

When anyone present a summary of a policy proposal (which has been done already 
by the authors) you’re directly or indirectly doing your own analysis and 
arguing for or against based on your own perspective. This is influencing 
participants, it can be never 100% unbiassed.

+1 Jordi 

 

I believe Wafa has provided far much better educational materials (unbiassed) 
on the policy development process to all the newbie's who can parse through and 
understand through those various links the origins of AfriNIC and how the 
entire pdp process works.

 

If anything, new folks would find the rpd list and its archives even more 
educational than a well documented and somewhat misleading document which is 
suspect.

 

I have been party to various working groups that lobby for or against some 
policies which is completely fine but the Larus Foundation approach is on some 
next level and seriously undermines the entire pdp process.

 

Noah



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