Owen, Its also absurd and clear inconsistency to attack the board, I don't know if you don't like the current board composition or the role of the AFRINIC board ? in all cases we should respect the board and respect our chair simply because they are elected to volunteer somethings good to the community, if any one or group believe the opposite he/they can free to nominate/support good representatives during election period, any disturbance in-between can't considered in meant well way!
For the point (4) I think we agreed on the base logic. Point (5) no comments may others can contribute Its again absurd to conclude with "....I believe that the current situation where the board supervises the nomcom is correct, but needs some fine-tuning..." while you see the board as problem ?! I thank you very much for admitting that "needs some fine-tuning" please apply this to all what we faces in AFRINIC. Dr. Sami H.O. Salih Assistant Prof, School of Electronics Engineering, SUST Head of R&D, NTC, SUDAN President of SDv6TF T/F: (249)122045707/187171355 ________________________________ From: Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:32 AM To: Sami Salih <sami.sa...@outlook.com> Cc: Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.mu>; community-discuss@afrinic.net <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Report of the AFRINIC Open Mic Session on June 20 On Jul 24, 2019, at 00:41 , Sami Salih <sami.sa...@outlook.com<mailto:sami.sa...@outlook.com>> wrote: Thank you Internet Society’s Africa, and Thank you Dawit and Michuki, This is what we expected from ISOC and from you as real Africans who really cares about the stability of this continent. Few points I would like to highlight as follows: 1) The Board can never viewed as part of any problem (I prefer use issues instead) if and only if we (I will always use WE as we are one community) increase the level of transparency. However, increasing transparency DID NOT mean to disclose everything. While I personally support disclosing the methodologies use to take decisions, I believe this is to be evaluated by the board its self to decide on the information to be share with members, community, etc. Overall, the board needed to build a trusted relationship with the community. It is absurd to claim the board can never be viewed as “part of any issue” or “part of any problem”. It is entirely possible for them to be part of the problem and several past actions show that they have, in fact, been part of the problem. If the board was not considered to be part of the problem, there would not have been a landslide victory for “none of the above” across the board in the 2018 board elections. 4) The legal interpretations and other bylaw issues can't be discussed in such details during open mic, only specialists in a small dedicated group can provide useful contributions and suggested the way-forward. As you can notice different views and different wishes are expressed at the end only specialist can enlightening and guide the community to respect the local laws and maintain the spirit of the bottom-up system for RIRs. While there is value to having these issues worked by small working groups to bring proposals back to the wider community and collect feedback, this should be an iterative process and there is absolutely good value in having wide community input into the process at various stages. IMHO, only when a proposal achieves relatively wide support in community consultations should it be formalized into motions put before an xGMM. 5) In page (3) please remove/rephrase this sentence ".... vote on policy proposals. ..." cos its not accurate. That whole paragraph is questionable, actually. There are specific requirements to participate in the PDP… 1. You must have an email address. 2. You must subscribe to the PDWG mailing list. 3. You must begin participating. I do not see how this particular set of requirements either enfranchises or disenfranchises one of any particular right to “vote”. 6) I would also propose that the Nomination and Election processes to be conducted by the governance committee, or at least they need to set a clear rule and procedure for those sensitive activities. I think that the board, possibly in consultation with the GC should propose the necessary bylaw amendments to correct the identified deficiencies in the election process and specifications and also produce a set of procedural documents which cover the identified gaps that are not necessarily bylaw material, but more operational and procedural in nature. I do not think that the election process itself should be managed by the GC. I believe that the current situation where the board supervises the nomcom is correct, but needs some fine-tuning in terms of how the nom-com is managed and what its responsibilities are. Owen
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