Hi Andrew,
May be an English nit, but in Spanish when I say “involved” in this context, it means “those that participated in the illegal/against the CPM action”. The CPM and RSA allows the board for those “involved” to cancel the account. No need for waiting for any courts decision. I understand this is what has been done, I was just wondering if we were in case 1, 2, or 3. I think it will be good to know and this is not information that need to be hidden until the court decision, the community has the right to know that *now*, as it can help to clarify if we need better policies, or whatever, to avoid that in the future. I understand that some resources may have been transferred without the knowledge of the legitimate holders. However, if you’re a holder and you didn’t realized that, it means that you’re not updating your records? It means that you’re not using those resources? Is not all that also against the CPM/RSA? Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 20/8/20 10:35, "Andrew Alston" <[email protected]> escribió: Jordi, “All the involved resource-holders should lose their rights” This assumes that the resource-holders who have legitimate rights to the IP space had any awareness of the transfers – which in this case is not reality – the transfers were illegitimate the IP space was stolen from the resource holders. So – what you are proposing is to penalize those who had resources stolen from them without their consent or knowledge. I point out that it has already been public acknowledgement over the fact that there are criminal proceedings on going against a former member of staff who was allegedly involved in the theft of these resources – please – lets not fan the flames by making inflammatory suggestions that don’t take into account all of the facts as currently known. Andrew From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2020 09:44 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINC being sued I've some points here: 1) Were those transfers done following the Intra-RIR policy? Or it happened before that policy existed? 2) Were those transfers inter-RIR? 3) In any case, were those transfers authorized by the staff (according to the CPM)? If any of those questions indicate that the CPM has not been followed, all those resources should be claimed back and the involved resource-holders should lose their rights and the membership account closed, right? Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 19/8/20 23:04, "Ronald F. Guilmette" <[email protected]> escribió: For those few of you who may not already be aware of this... https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/363694-man-connected-to-african-ip-address-heist-sues-afrinic.html As many of you might imagine, I will have more to say about this in due course. Regards, rfg _______________________________________________ Community-Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it. _______________________________________________ Community-Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.
_______________________________________________ Community-Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
