True They keep it civil or COC be evoked straight up regards Barry
> On 30 Oct 2020, at 21:15, Tom Ochang <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Noah, you have spoken well. > >> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, 19:01 Noah, <[email protected]> wrote: >> Elad >> >> The Code of Conduct is there to stop such defamation. Since its been >> invoked, its a call to both you and Roland to calm down. >> >> The reasons I am calling your back and forth exchange crap is because am on >> other lists where I have seen you both go on each other just like you were >> attempting to do here and its not new to some of us. >> >> Let us have a civilized discourse for we are a polite community. >> >> That is all am saying. >> >> Noah >> >>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, 20:47 Elad Cohen, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Noah, >>> >>> All I'm doing is to respond to an organized defamation campaign against me. >>> >>> I take it as an offence when you reference my response as "crap" after my >>> blood was spilled here in community-discuss mailing list for almost a year, >>> without you raising your voice when my blood was spilled here for such long >>> time. To the point that I needed to start a legal case against AfriNIC >>> because my blood was spilled here. >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> Elad >>> From: Noah <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 7:36 PM >>> To: Ali Hussein <[email protected]> >>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <[email protected]>; AFRINIC >>> Communication <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders >>> in AfriNIC >>> >>> Ali >>> >>> This two have been going on each other for a while now and for those on >>> other lists like NANOG etc we have read enough of their crap esp when they >>> go personal and its just that we didnt expect to see the same crap on the >>> AFRINIC lists. >>> >>> So its good that AFRINIC invoked the CoC which can come in handy. >>> >>> Better they stick to issues if they both want further engagement with this >>> polite and hospitable community. >>> >>> Noah >>> >>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, 15:58 Ali Hussein, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Great to see Afrinic finally taking action to curb this behavior. >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Digital Transformation >>> >>> +254 0713 601113 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a >>> habit." ~ Aristotle >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On 30 Oct 2020, at 2:33 PM, AFRINIC Communication <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Mr Cohen, >>>> >>>> AFRINIC in its role to enforce the code of conduct on the community >>>> mailing list is issuing you your first written warning for the offensive >>>> behavior displayed against another member of the community list, namely >>>> Mr. Ronlad F. Guilmette on the thread titled “Notice to all the legacy >>>> netblocks holders in AfriNIC” >>>> >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003713.html >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003715.html >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003718.html >>>> >>>> You went on to continue with such behaviour after the AFRINIC >>>> communications team reminded the list of the code of conduct by sending >>>> out the following email >>>> >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003723.html >>>> >>>> In light of above, your behaviour has been deemed as offensive, >>>> discriminatory, and intimidating as it included personal attacks.This is >>>> in direct violation with Sections II and III of AFRINIC’s Code of Conduct. >>>> https://afrinic.net/code >>>> >>>> You are hereby reminded to abide by the AFRINIC Code of Conduct when >>>> interacting with the AFRINIC community at all times. >>>> >>>> For more information please refer to the following blog. >>>> https://afrinic.net/20200903-code-of-conduct >>>> >>>> Please refrain from acting inappropriately on AFRINIC mailing lists again. >>>> >>>> AFRINIC Communications Team >>>> >>>> ………………………………………………………… >>>> >>>> Cher Monsieur Cohen, >>>> >>>> AFRINIC dans le cadre de son action pour faire respecter le code de >>>> conduite sur la liste de diffusion communautaire vous adresse un premier >>>> avertissement écrit pour le comportement offensant à l'encontre d'un >>>> autre membre de la liste communautaire, à savoir M. Ronlad F. Guilmette >>>> sur le fil intitulé "Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in >>>> AfriNIC". >>>> >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003713.html >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003715.html >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003718.html >>>> >>>> Vous avez continué avec ce comportement même après que l'équipe de >>>> communication AFRINIC ait fait un rappel sur le code de conduite en >>>> envoyant le courriel suivant: >>>> >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003723.html >>>> >>>> À la lumière de ce qui précède, votre comportement a été perçu comme étant >>>> offensant, discriminatoire et intimidant car il inclut des attaques >>>> personnelles. Ceci est en violation directe avec les sections II et III du >>>> code de conduite de l'AFRINIC : https://afrinic.net/code >>>> >>>> Il vous est rappelé de respecter le code de conduite AFRINIC lorsque vous >>>> interagissez avec la communauté AFRINIC à tout moment. >>>> >>>> Pour plus d'informations, veuillez vous référer au blog suivant. >>>> https://afrinic.net/20200903-code-of-conduct >>>> >>>> Veuillez vous abstenir d'agir à nouveau de manière inappropriée sur les >>>> listes de diffusion AFRINIC. >>>> >>>> L’Equipe de Communications d’AFRINIC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 27 Oct 2020, at 17:57, Elad Cohen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "I have other things to attend to." - like cleaning pores? >>>>> From: Ronald F. Guilmette <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:03 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks >>>>> holders in AfriNIC >>>>> >>>>> In message <[email protected]>, >>>>> AFRINIC Communication <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >The Regional Internet Registry (RIR) system is a successful model of >>>>> >industry self-regulation... >>>>> >>>>> I would be happy to debate the truth or falsehood of that proposition >>>>> with you at some appropriate moment. (Not just now. I have other >>>>> things to attend to.) >>>>> >>>>> It is likely true that the RIR system has served, like the Pax Americana >>>>> of the late 20th century and the Pax Romana before it, to prevent all-out >>>>> violent confrontations between otherwise opposing factions. But this >>>>> is not the only possible definition of the word "successful", and there >>>>> have been glaring and evident problems... in the AFRINIC region, in the >>>>> ARIN region, in the RIPE region, and elsewhere. To simply and >>>>> unilaterally >>>>> declare that "This model of governance is good. End of discusssion." is >>>>> not entirely persuasive in the present context. >>>>> >>>>> And although the industry may view this model as having been fantastically >>>>> successful at keeping various governments largely or entirely at bay and >>>>> largely or entirely out of the Internet regulation business (which even >>>>> I would agree is a profoundly Good Thing) the industry, such as it is, >>>>> is going to have to come to terms someday with that fact that secrecy >>>>> and the shrouding of every detail underneath a gigantic blanket of >>>>> NDAs neither promotes good governance nor is compatible with the ever >>>>> increasing dependency of society as a whole on this utility we call the >>>>> Internet, a utility whose underlying business arrangement have, by design, >>>>> been keep almost entirely opaque to the outside world. >>>>> >>>>> The present pandemic has only increased the dependency of society on the >>>>> Internet, and thus it has also increased the need for more transparency >>>>> into these private business arragements, in the public interest. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> rfg >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >> _______________________________________________ >> Community-Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
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