Hi Noah


Thanks for your prompt reply. I will say the same goes for the bylaw, they are 
both lawyer-made documents which should not govern the usage of community 
resource. Or else lawyers can do whatever they want to, then what is the point 
of having a community and CPM?



Using bylaw to justify the action of using RSA to manage IP resource is not 
only invalid (as RSA is a document written by lawyers)but also very ridiculous. 
These documents shouldn’t contain anything about resource management in the 
very first place because this can be used as an evidence of AFRINIC not 
following up its own “bottom up process” - which consequently violates its 
legitimacy of existence.



The only valid way of resource management is through PDP, by making changes to 
the CPM - both PDP and CPM are above any jurisdiction and any legal documents 
such as bylaw and RSA.



As for the bylaw and RSA, they should simply refer all resource management 
clauses to the CPM and delete all resource management clauses. The versions 
current are very poorly written and need to be redone.



Paul









---- On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 19:09:15 +0200 Noah <[email protected]> wrote ----


Hi Paul,



Before we dwell into the RSA, please read the AFRINIC Bylaws and specifically 
article 3.4 sections (i) and (iii).



The constitution is clear on what the objectives of AFRINIC are among others. 
The RSA and ratified policies regulate the said management of Internet number 
resources.



Noah

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 19:54 Paul Wollner, 
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

Hello Everyone,



It is vital to note that the RSA is not the document to regulate the resource 
usage. If this is the case then, the entire bottom up policy will be obsolete! 
The RSA can easily be amended by AFRINIC which allows and permit an arbitrary 
form of changes being made neglecting the proper PDP flow. This form of 
suggestion and idea is dangerous as it allows AFRINIC absolute control.



We need to be mindful with what we say especially if we tend to argue for the 
sake of bashing certain individuals as this have the tendency to endanger the 
very basis that AFRINIC exists on, which is the bottom up policy.



The fact remains that the RSA is a mere contractual document which establishes 
the relationship between the Parties which are party to the document. In 
essence, any issues on ground of technicality is amendable and can be made 
right with proper resolution of the Parties and it is not the end of the world.



The above also encompass the mere technicalities including the change of 
nature. So long as the change of nature does not violate any written laws and 
are not used for crime, it should be permitted and AFRINIC should not be 
allowed to arbitrarily govern this, this will allow too much power upon them 
and, unfortunately, these recent weeks we can see clearly that at times the 
decisions that were made by AFRINIC are not the best.



Imagine changing the nature of one’s business and just by that your entire 
allocation is being revoked for that very reason. It doesn’t make any practical 
sense.



Regards

Paul









---- On Tue, 09 Feb 2021 23:21:39 +0200 Noah <mailto:[email protected]> wrote ----





On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:47 PM Owen DeLong <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

Originally, the space was used for some rather specialized connectivity 
services. Due to changes in the market and the legal environment, those 
services became less lucrative and the organization pivoted. 



Hardly any organization that has been in this business for more than 10 years 
is using every address they have for the exact purpose for which it was 
approved. 



None the less, delegating addresses to customers for their legitimate use as 
unique internet addresses remains the primary purpose of any IR whether it be 
regional, national, or local. 



There exists no requirement in policy that such delegations involve 
connectivity services. In fact, no RIR provides connectivity services to any of 
the organizations it issues addresses to. 



Certainly, if such a requirement were intended, it could have been written into 
the policy. 



Owen





Hi Owen,



Firstly, thank you so much for making more explicit the evidence which has been 
discussed here by the community since 2014.



IPv4 Addresses must be used for the purpose they were requested for and leasing 
is not allowed. 



I also find your point about RIR not providing connectivity services to 
organizations it issues addresses to, inappropriate because you know very well 
the mandate, role and the responsibilities of entities in the current Internet 
number registry hierarchy.



Noah 



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