I’m a little confused - can you clarify which part of what post is a personal 
attack - there are multiple posts in this thread. The statement about people 
don’t wanting africa to succeed would be my guess but I wanna be sure

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From: Wijdane Goubi <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 7:16:12 PM
To: Leo S <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their 
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This is a blatant personal attack, and I'm still baffled as to why such attacks 
are still tolerated. As a result, I'm asking the board to remove this, and I'm 
asking the community to address similar behaviors when people are attacked in 
their person.

Continuing to engage in such actions is both urgent and dangerous; it only 
serves to hold us back as a community. Therefore, I urge the community to call 
out those who engage in such behaviors and work together to make this community 
a better place for all of us.


Regards,

Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 à 18:06, Leo S 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
Sorry I know I said something bad for Cloud Innovation Ltd, but this is the 
truth. If they want to sue me, there is no problem, please come to Myanmar.


On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 11:53 PM Meriem Dayday 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello,

This is a direct violation of the CoC.

Disclosing such information and data without the company’s consent is a clear 
attempt of defamation and can have legal consequences on the concerned person.

Having a business or other relationship with the said company does not give you 
the right to divulge such details on a public mailing list. That is quite 
appalling.

Please refrain from violating the CoC and attacking entities in such manner. It 
can only be troublesome.

I am urging the PDWG chairs to act immediately by sanctioning the sender and 
deleting this delicate email from the list.


Best,

Le dim. 25 juil. 2021 à 15:39, Leo S 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :

About Cloud Innovation Ltd I want to talk about their business model.

They got 7 Million IPv4 addresses from AFRINIC at a price of $10,000 USD per 
year, and then leased them to ISPs or end users at a price of ~2 USD/year/IPv4 
(large block in 2018 if Small block may be more expensive maybe $3 USD) and 
with an annual increase of 15% fee from the price


So the cost is $10,000 USD

Revenue is 7M x 2 = 14 Million

so it’s 150000% profit


Part of the cost is spent on RIR community activities and seeking support from 
members, and money will be used to defeat those who oppose it.

Are there any people in the world who don't love money? Those who accept their 
money will support them in the community. and questioned any action of 
discussion that would be detrimental to them.


Of course, this is Lu Heng.

He also plundered tens of thousands of IP addresses from RIPE and A few years 
later sold to vodafone and earned millions of dollars. He is smart and knows 
who should pay the money to.



To rent an IP address from Cloud Innovation Ltd, you do not need to use their 
network services and circuits. Exactly they don't provide network service. and 
I think 90% of IP addresses are used in North America and Asia



I don't know much about AFRINIC's policy. But in ARIN you must have a circuit 
or network service then you can rent an IP address from the provider.


The AFRINIC internal audit action may be detrimental to Cloud Innovation Ltd, 
so they started some network services in South Africa last year as Africa on 
cloud. but it's a small network. I think the revenue from these services may 
account for less than 10% of their revenue. so 90% of their revenue still from 
IPv4 address leasing business


It can be seen from their income that they have enough money to support the 
lawsuit against AFRINIC. And spend money in the community to fight for their 
address not to be revoked.

very sad AFRINIC is too poor


By the way, I was also their customer before




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