Each of them is described in a case in Mauritian court. Feel free to pull the cases. They should not be hard to find.
Owen > On Jan 7, 2022, at 09:10, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 02:14 , DANIEL NANGHAKA <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I wonder why some members can't let the court of law do its work. >>> >>> AFRINIC has provided updates to the community where necessity of the update >>> is important. >> >> Several of which have contained false or misleading claims and most of which >> have been quite incomplete. >> >> If CI is to do there press releases, there is no problem as it is also noted >> that they should present facts and not mislead the community. > > I think you mean “their press releases”. > > Again, I am questioning the claim that what CI has presented is not factual > or is misleading… IF someone actually wants to make > such a claim, then let them say exactly what the believe to be false or > misleading and offer evidence to refute it. So far, that has > not happened. > >> CI's press release looks vague and does not give detailed information. If >> you do a press release then present the exact issues otherwise just shut up >> and let the courts do there job. > > AFRINIC’s press releases have been similarly vague and have not offered > detailed information. This is the nature of the limits > of what you can say when involved in litigation to some extent. Beyond that, > of course both parties will attempt to convey themselves > in the best light as they attempt to gain ground in public opinion. > > While I do some consulting for Cloud Innovation, I am not Cloud Innovation > and I speak my own mind. I am as likely to criticize > Cloud Innovation as Praise it. When I believe AFRINIC has done something > right, I will say so. When I believe AFRINIC is > violating its own policies and ignoring its own rules, I will say so. > > Your criticism of the vagueness of press releases may be legitimate, but if > so then it applies equally to both sides. > > However, the press releases around these cases have been no more or less > vague than virtually any other similar dispute > throughout history and this is generally true of both sides. > > Owen > >> >> >> >> >>> On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 23:08 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Are you saying that the cloud innovation press release contains false, >>> misleading, or inaccurate defamatory claims about afrinic? >>> >>> Owen >>> >>> >>>>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 12:38, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> On 28 Dec 2021, at 2:49 PM, Mathanya Ramaboea <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I highly appreciate CI's good communication with its clients regarding >>>>> the development of the lawsuit but I also agree that it would be good to >>>>> see what AFRINIC also has to say on the matter, to its members and >>>>> everyone else in the community. It is normal that the case involves a >>>>> certain level of confidentiality but from Cheken's link it appears that >>>>> AFRINIC has "repeatedly breached the Judge's order and acted in contempt >>>>> of the court'', so at what cost? How would this reflect on the outcome of >>>>> the litigation and everyone impacted? >>>> >>>> Reference: https://afrinic.net/court-cases >>>> >>>> Given that one of the matters of litigation is a claim of defamation by >>>> Cloud Innovation against AFRINIC as a result of AFRINIC’s past >>>> communications to the community about the cases, it would not surprise me >>>> in the least if AFRINIC were to be quite reticent about further >>>> communications on these legal matters – I know that I would be if ARIN >>>> faced similar circumstances, even if it went further so as to include >>>> specious representations to our community about their status. >>>> >>>> FYI, >>>> /John >>>> >>>> John Curran >>>> President and CEO >>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >
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