On 12 Nov 2002, Costin Manolache wrote:

> Date: 12 Nov 2002 09:58:04 -0800
> From: Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> To: Community <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: The Apache Jakarta Law (Scientific?)
>
> So far it seems Stefano ( who is not currently a very active tomcat
> developer) is pissed off by the decisions made on tomcat-dev.
> I don't see too many tomcat developers flaming each other.

It's much nicer than the "good 'ol days" :-).

>
> IMHO most ( or all ) tomcat developers agree that both code bases
> had some good and some bad parts. I also think most of the
> tomcat community is behind 5.0, which is a merge of ideas
> and code from both 3.3 and 4.x. And I think users were very
> well served, and the outcome is one of the best possible.
>

+1

> In the end we have a far better community and a lot more tolerance
> and understanding.

+1

>
>
> Costin
>

Craig


>
>
> On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 08:28, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> > The Apache Jakarta Law:
> >
> > Any discussion regarding Apache Jakarta will eventually degrade into a
> > discussion about the
> > Tomcat 3.3/4.0 issue, often including a full re-analysis of the events,
> > revision of the history, and sometimes degrading into a full
> > re-enactment of the emotionally charged flamewar that engulfed the
> > Tomcat project at the time.  Often even those who don't often
> > participate in such "interesting uses of time" will even "match the
> > judgement logic" necessary to participate in such a conversation.
> >
> > I hope one day my Law  is proven false.  Perhaps if those involved were
> > to take this on to a wiki and document all about it, the different view
> > points and lessons learned, opposing lessons learned etc, we could one
> > day make this law obsolete at least.
> >
> > -Andy
> >
> > Joe Schaefer wrote:
> >
> > >Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > >[...]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>I believe it was a mistake to allow two different
> > >>codebases to share the same name.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >I'm not convinced that "having two codebases" is
> > >necessarily a mistake.  So far the discussion here
> > >seems to have centered around the concerns of the
> > >existing tomcat developers.  I'd like to know what
> > >the tomcat users (ie. the future tomcat developers)
> > >think of the 3.x/4.x division.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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