On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 04:20, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:

> not strictly true, although mostly.  a product release may be effectively
> vetoed by the asf officer with oversight of the project, if it appears
> in that person's judgement that releasing it would be the Wrong Thing

I'm curious - are those rules invented as we go ?

Sam - you are the PMC chair for jakarta, did you know that rule ? Or the
rules about direct ( and non-delegating ) oversight, or the
non-protection for non-PMC members?

I would feel much better if you did - and decided to not tell the rest
of us for whatever reasons. Because if you didn't - I think ASF has a
very serious problem.


Is there any process to distinguish or find the official rules ?
 
Ken - can you point to the document where you found this particular
rule? 

Costin



> for the foundation.  in that case, it doesn't matter what the majority
> think, since the product is an *asf* product and not just theirs, although
> they certainly have the privilege of and responsibility to try to convince
> the officer (pmc chair) of the Rightness of the view to release.
> 
> in a healthy and smoothly-communicating community that should never
> happen; any such horribly blocking issue should have been raised
> and a reasonable solution or compromise developed.  in fact, this
> hasn't happened afaik, and i hope it never does -- but everyone should
> be aware that this is one of the aspects of people working on code
> owned in common by the foundation proper: the foundation has the
> final say about it.  the interests of the foundation are represented
> by the asf officer overseeing the project, who is almost certainly
> going to support the majority -- except when doing so would damage
> the foundation's interests.
> 
> this is all imo, and certainly others may disagree with me.
> 
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