On 6/30/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This isn't a Code of Conduct, it's a top-level description of our ethos.
Yes, that's how it turned out. I started out to research a code of conduct, and came back with a set of community guidelines that describe how we expect people to behave on our lists. (The context was hostile behavior, or behavior perceived to be hostile.) Two key points the community guidelines make is "criticize the code, not the coder", and "don't feed the trolls". I can remember multiple occasions when we've had to explain such things to people on different lists, and I believe it would help to have a cannonical reference. The example project guidelines and cultural principles were added to put the draft community guidelines into context. Though, we might not want to post all three items together as a block. * The "Community Guidelines" could be placed at apache.org under "Get Involved", next to the Mailing List page. * The "Example Project Guidelines" could be placed at incubator.apache.org under "Other Guides",. * The first part of the "ASF Culture" section could be merged with the Philosophy section of "How the ASF Works", with the "ASF Motto" section being moved to it's own page, next to the Glossary of Apache-Related Terms <http://apache.org/foundation/glossary.html>.
Hell ya. Let me state that when various leaks of members@ level and higher material occurred, I was personally read to pen a resolution to expel the idiot with no respect for the foundation.
No need to pen a resolution, all we need is a 2/3's vote. "Section 4.7. Termination from Membership. No member may have his, her or its membership terminated except by an affirmative vote of a two-thirds majority of the members of the corporation."
But I have no problem with a PMC turning off pmc access, commit access, or even un-subbing an obnoxious participant. We just had to do this at the wiki level in httpd. It happens, solve it, move on.
Since the PMC and its chair serve at the pleasure of the board, there's nothing in the bylaws about booting someone off a PMC. Though, I'd hope that we'd look for the same sort of 2/3 super-majority vote at the PMC level. If we didn't have that degree of consensus, then it might be better to just reboot the PMC and start over (or not). Of course, when a resource is public, our only recourse is to shun an obnoxious participant, since unsubbing someone that obnoxious will simply encourage more bad behavior under a new email address. We should try and be sure that our communities understand that "Don't feed the trolls" does work. -Ted. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
