Hi. I am not sure if this is the right place for such a question/suggestion, but better here than nowhere :-)
I have lately been meet with confusion in 2 situations, both at ASF community level (at least if you look from a distance). Lazy consensus defines "silence is consensus", but projects (like e.g. labs) tends to redefine this rule: "Every ASF committer can ask for one or more labs. The creation of the lab requires a PMC lazy consensus vote (at least three +1 and no -1, 72 hours)" In my mind this sentence is hard to understand, does it mean: a) PMC who dont send an explicit +1/-1 cast a +1 == "silence is concensus" or b) 3 +1 pmc votes is needed, so the rules of "lazy consensus" does not apply The people who wrote the lines I quote are all much more experienced in "the apache way" than I am, but I believe its important that newcomers (like myself) can read and understand what is written, without having to read "between the lines". I suggest, that we make an effort to at least at ASF community level, not to confuse, but to be precise. I believe it would be correct to append [1] with: "Lazy consensus cannot be used, if the project requires a minimum number of +1 for the proposal to be accepted" @labs, please dont feel targeted, I am not picking on your project (which I happen to believe is VERY important, and much too unknown"), but allowing myself to use your good website as documentation for my point. rgds jan I. [1] http://community.apache.org/committers/lazyConsensus.html<http://community.apache.org/committers/lazyConsensus.html>
