Hello Jan,

Yes, I think the features you describe could be part of the toolkit we
talk about, indeed.

Regards,

Eric

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Jan van der Ven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then it happened again.
>
>
>  Dear all,
>
>
>  My 12:34 e-mail did not reach you with all the content in it. I submitted it
>  like this:
>  <quote>
>  So what would be the things that we need to do?
>  I can think of the following things:
>
>  - Layer selection, by adding layer type objects? (How much would we
>  duplicating of the work described here: http://lautaportti.wordpress.com/)?
>  Or Steve's solution with the init function? I seem to have had this picture
>  placed in my subconscious: <<link removed>>.
>  - Setting the map's initial extent.
>  - Choosing the controls to show.
>  - Choosing which text annotation to show from the layer.
>  - Raising events for Plone whenever a change is made in the map.
>
>  Kind regards,
>
>
>  Jan
>  </quote>
>
>  I most regret that the greeting fell off.
>
>
>  Kind regards,
>
>
>  Jan
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
>  Coleman-Williams
>  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 14:26
>  To: 'gispython.org community projects'
>  Subject: Re: [Community] OpenLayers in Plone 3
>
>  Are we thinking of the strict Plone3 way of doing things with GS or what??
>
>  How ever we decide I will try and get a simple "lets bash the libraries into
>  zodb" done tonight in a true Plone3 GS way.
>
>  Steve Coleman-Williams
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>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bréhault
>  Sent: 24 April 2008 12:05
>  To: gispython.org community projects
>  Subject: Re: [Community] OpenLayers in Plone 3
>
>  of course it is simple :)
>  but it would be still useful to do it only once
>
>  here what I have I mind:
>  - a skin containing OpenLayers
>  - a profile which would declare the css, js and so on, plus a propertytool
>  in the portal (to manage stuff like GoogleMapKey, for
>  instance)
>  - a BrowserView class, with few annotations (to manage wms adresses, SLD
>  styles, etc...)
>  - some PT macros that you would be able to insert OL in your
>  product-specific templates that way:
>  tal:define="view here/@@openlayer_browserview"
>
>  <script tal:define="my_google_key view/getGoogleKey"
>                             type="text/javascript" src=""
>  tal:attributes="src
>  string:http://maps.google.com/maps?file=api&amp;v=2&amp;key=${my_google_key}
>  ">
>
>  <script tal:define="parameters view/getParameters"
>                         tal:content="string:window.onload=function()
>                                                {load('${parameters}');}" >
>  <div id="map" tal:define="myHeight view/getHeight"
>                       tal:attributes="style string:height:${myHeight}px">
>  </div>
>
>  so, for sure, it is not difficult, but it would just make the integration
>  cleaner, that's all
>
>  Eric
>
>  On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Steve Coleman-Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  wrote:
>  > To get Plone to use the OL libraries is at best trivial at worst simple.
>  >
>  >  I already have a product that simply installs the OpenLayers
>  > directory  structure and JS files into Plone skins and allows people
>  > to include them
>  as
>  >  resources
>  >
>  >
>  >  Steve Coleman-Williams
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>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  >  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric
>  > Bréhault
>  >
>  >
>  > Sent: 24 April 2008 10:33
>  >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gispython.org community projects
>  >  Subject: Re: [Community] OpenLayers in Plone 3
>  >
>  >  editing/adding/removing features should be part of the presentation
>  > layer
>  >
>  >  but, here, I do not propose to build a complete GIS presentation
>  > layer
>  >
>  >  I just propose to provide a technical toolkit to be able to insert
>  > OpenLayers in Plone templates, which would be used by any presentation
>  > layer involving OL  (because the needs might be very differents: some
>  > want a content-type  to display a map, others want to manage geo-aware
>  > Plone objects, and  others want to build an AT geo widget)
>  >
>  >  so I do not think it would be productive to try to build a generic
>  > OL-based GIS presentation layer for Plone
>  >
>  >  In my case for instance, I use OL to create or edit geometry, and I
>  > call zgeo.wfs to save and index the resulting geometry directly in
>  > Zope, but we could imagine another solution where the geometry is also
>  > created and modified using OL but stored in an AT field and sent to
>  > PostGIS (for instance) as a WKT string
>  >
>  >  but, whatever is your architecture, in any case, you will still need
>  > to make Plone able to load and use the OL Javascript library, so
>  > that's the objective of my initial proposal
>  >
>  >  see?
>  >
>  >  Eric BREHAULT
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Jan van der Ven
>  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  wrote:
>  >  > Eric,
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  Part of the presentation layer is editing and adding and removing
>  > content,  >  right?
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  Kind regards,
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  Jan
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  >  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  >
>  >  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric
>  Bréhault
>  >  >  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 09:42  >  To:
>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gispython.org community projects  >  Subject:
>  > Re: [Community] OpenLayers in Plone 3  >  >  >  > PrimaGIS provides
>  > the ability to manage MapServer from Plone, and also
>  to
>  >  >  display a map in Plone (using OpenLayers by the way in the Plone
>  version
>  >  I
>  >  >  think).
>  >  >
>  >  >  Here what we propose is just to provide OpenLayers in Plone, so
>  > just
>  the
>  >  GIS
>  >  >  client technical intergration aspects (basically a skin containing
>  > OL
>  +
>  >  some
>  >  >  nice macro to insert and configure OL from PT templates). Nothing
>  about
>  >  the
>  >  >  GIS server-side. Nothing about the spatial information data model
>  > or  >  storage.
>  >  >
>  >  >  The idea is to provide an unified OL integration technical toolkit
>  that
>
> >  >  could be used for instance by PrimaGIS, EryrOL, PleiadesOL, or any
>  other
>  >  >  Plone product that may need OL.
>  >  >
>  >  >  Eric BREHAULT
>  >  >
>  >  >  On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Alex Mandel
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  >  wrote:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > Moisan Yves wrote:
>  >  >  >  > -Translation to Dutch.
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  > And French too, but with Éric on board that's no problem.
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  > As an aside, I noticed the folks at OpenPlans are apparently
>  going
>  >  to
>  >  >  provide some map viewing/editing capabilities (GeoServer I assume)
>  > in  their  >  OpenCore software.  OpenCore is Plone (and a couple of
>  > other FOSS
>  parts),
>  >  >  though I'm not sure which version.  It may be a good idea to
>  > bounce an  email  >  to Chris Holmes about an OL integration to Plone
>  > 3.
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  > Yves
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>  > now  >  > but  last I looked they had tinkered with Prima 0.5 and
>  > decided to  >  > wait on an  easier solution.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  I'm in to help although I'm not terribly familiar with the
>  > inner  >  > workings of Plone 3 yet. (Book to be ordered soon)  >  >
>  > >  >  One question for clarification, how does this idea differ from
>  > the  >  > PrimaGIS mindset?
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