* hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070118 14:01]: > Beside the point that an *average* user doesn't see the potential of > open source on a mobile - what are your experiances and demands on > a smart phone? > > When you look at the devices that you know or use(d): > - What does you miss most? > - What does you hate most? > - What does you like/used most? > > well honestly my biggest issue with phones in general is not features but > execution. The iPhone is a good example of executing well on features > that have been around for years. My one concern with open source is that > it is great at delivering features, but historically not great at UI. This > is because big open source projects are often done by teams where everyone > can do what they want. This tends to mean there is no singular unified > design vision. This is fine for features for the most part because we can That's technically speaking an out-of-date vision of opensource develepment. I wouldn't consider KDE inconsistent. actually, one might argue that KDE does better then Windows based environments on this score.
> all more or less agree on how to implement wifi or an encryption scheme or > whatever. Or if we disagree we can implement five different ways as APIs > and let the market decide. But good UI doesn't work that way. I guess you haven't used the embedded Linux UIs. They are more consistent then some commercial phones. > > So the iPhone has a design czar - jobs - and that means that forward > thinking design gets done in a unified way. This issue may not effect nope. You are assuming that it will be executed well. nobody has seen an iphone for long enough to fool around with it. >From seeing the details, the iPhone is something that not even my wife will want to have, everything that I've seen till now suggests that it will be a nice (smart)phone, but not necessarily nicer than better existing phones, with an iPod embedded. And it will put the carriers interests in front of the users interests. > OpenMoko, at least in the beginning, since a private company is doing the > design. But when the design process becomes public, the features and > design by committee thing might be an issue. It's the Linux-will-fork story all over. Empirical evidence suggests that your fear won't happen. > > But the bottom line is that my biggest problem with phones is that they > are just not designed well. The pretty much all suck! Well, that's not helpful. Design a better, give hints, improvement ideas. It's hard to give you the perfect phone, because you don't specify what you want. Andreas _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

