* Renaissance Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070118 23:06]:
> On 18 Jan 2007, at 9:42 pm, Sencer wrote:
> 
> >Everbody gets what you are saying. It is you who does not understand that it 
> >is largely irrelevant, because everybody already is in favour of having wifi 
> >at some point. The question 
> >is not about the "plus" side of having wifi, but the question is with 
> >dealing with the costs of adding wifi to 1st generation device, which 
> >completely flies past you.
> 
> No, that was just the argument some were projecting onto me; my argument 
> isn't that "you must include wifi" in the Neo v1 no matter what the cost. My 
> argument is that the GSM+WiFi/VoIP 
> combination is a revolution waiting to happen and that OpenMoko clearly won't 
> be player in this until it gets WiFi.
The point is, it's not a revolution. It might be a local revolution,
but e.g. in Germany/Austria there is NO flatfee WiFi provider. So the
local chapters of the revolution died, because all members went broke
on WiFi hotspot access charges *g*

> By the time it does get WiFi, however, the revolution may already have 
> happened, and OpenMoko will simply be joining the bandwagon, which is a shame 
> because of the potential mindshare 
> in being a pioneer of such a device.
Technically speaking, the WiFi/VoIP has already happened in the Nokia
E/N series. Just that nobody really cares ;)

Andreas

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