Jay,
On Q2:
The Mobile & Embedded Community (http://www.mobileandembedded.org) is
keeping a close eye on OpenMoko. We definitely want to see Java ME
on this device. Anybody who is interested in working on porting Java ME
to OpenMoko please let me know.
Btw, I believe Koen has already started some work on this, see
atached.
-- Terrence
Jay Trister wrote:
This is my first post ,so I just wanted to give a thumbs up for this
original idea :)
I think this mobile will start a chain reaction that will lead to a big
market change..
Question 1:
Will there be any software (from phase 0) that will take advantage of
the AGPS?
No need for maps (as long as there is a way to create them ourselves).
Can you tell us which program you're planning to use ,so we can get a
head start?
Question 2:
I know what I want might be tough , but are there any plans to implement
a java API to access some of the basic functions of the phone (ringing,
sms, catalogue access) ?
I prefer java because its more portable (or at least more easy to port)
than C++.
I believe that if you allow even a basic low level access to java apps
the phone lot of java developers will turn to it .It's better to have
Java&C Developers than only C ;) .
Keep up the good work. I think this mobile WILL revolusionize the future.
Btw, the gaming-console/media-player/e-book-reader GP2X is made on a
pretty much-same philosophy.Everything is open for everyone-even the
source code of the firmware. And the company is giving an SDK.
PS. sorry for my bad english :)
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Hi,
I was getting very annoyed with all the people complaining "OMG! we need java!!!!! LOL",
but doing absolutely nothing to help getting java into OE (and hence making it available
to the neo1973). So I decided to actually do something:
http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/java/
It errors out somewhere in do_compile, probably because kaffeh isn't sun j2se (on my build
machine).
So if any of you want to actually help out instead of complaining, go read
http://java.sun.com/javame/reference/docs/cdc_build_system.pdf, install OE and get busy!
regards,
Koen
As sample of the output in the devshell:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/phoneme-advanced-0.0+MR2-r0/phoneme_advanced-mr2/build/linux$
make bin
touch ../../build/linux--/./generated/empty.mk
CVM_HOST = i686-generic-linux
CVM_TARGET = linux--
SHELL = sh -e
HOST_CC =
/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc
HOST_CCC =
/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++
ZIP = /usr/bin/zip
CVM_JAVA = /usr/bin/java
CVM_JAVAC = /usr/bin/javac
CVM_JAVAH = /usr/bin/javah
CVM_JAR = /usr/bin/jar
TARGET_CC =
/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc
TARGET_CCC =
/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++
TARGET_AS =
/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc
TARGET_LD =
/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc
TARGET_AR = /usr/bin/ar
TARGET_RANLIB = /usr/bin/ranlib
LINKFLAGS = -g -Wl,-export-dynamic
LINKLIBS = -lpthread -ldl -lm
ASM_FLAGS = -c -fno-common -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale -mthumb-interwork
-mthumb
CCCFLAGS = -fno-rtti
CCFLAGS_SPEED = -c -fno-common -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale
-mthumb-interwork -mthumb -O4
CCFLAGS_SPACE = -c -fno-common -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale
-mthumb-interwork -mthumb -O2
CCFLAGS_LOOP = -c -fno-common -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale
-mthumb-interwork -mthumb -O4 -fno-inline
CCFLAGS_FDLIB = -c -fno-common -Wall -fno-strict-aliasing -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale
-mthumb-interwork -mthumb -O4
JAVAC_OPTIONS = -g:none -J-Xms32m -J-Xmx128m -encoding iso8859-1 -source 1.4
-target 1.4
CVM_DEFINES = -DCVM_OPTIMIZED -DCVM_DEBUG_STACKTRACES -DNDEBUG -DCVM_CLASSLOADING
-DCVM_SERIALIZATION -DCVM_REFLECT -DCVM_DYNAMIC_LINKING -DCVM_TIMESTAMPING
-DJ2ME_CLASSLIB=cdc -DTARGET_CPU_FAMILY= -D_GNU_SOURCE
updating ../../build/linux--/./generated/build_defs.mk ...
Checking for build-time classes to compile ...
Terrence schreef:
Koen,
Interesting, thanks. We'll have a look at it.
-- Terrence
Koen Kooi wrote:
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Terrence schreef:
The Java Mobile & Embedded Community (www.mobileandembedded.org)
is very interested in getting Java ME ported to OpenMoko.
You can start right now by adding phoneme and javac to openembedded
(www.openembedded.org), which would make phoneme available to
distributions like
openzaurus, openezx and angstrom as well.
Unfortunately I'm not allowed to share my recipes and patches for cvm
I did 2 years ago,
but I can hint that can't use the existing .mk files, since most of
their assumptions are
wrong.
regards,
Koen
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