ke, 2007-01-24 kello 15:05 -0500, David Ford kirjoitti: > I don't wish to continue this ludicrous debate [...] > Those of you that threaten to unsubscribe from the list because others > of us choose not to follow your religion or keep debating.
First of all, if you're too emotional to see that what you're doing here, calling the opposing viewpoint a religion, which is blatantly untrue, amounts to simple trolling for more of the same despite your stated wishes that this (two-sided) tirade stops, you shouldn't have posted at all. Neither side is religious. Some points about possible fanaticism may be made about proponents of both sides, but fanaticism is hardly the sole domain of religions. Also, both viewpoints may well be held nonfanatically, though I do find that the more emotional stance tends to be the counter-reaction to GNU/Linux (ie. the hissy fits that some people throw when somebody mentions their opinion that the GNU/Linux moniker should be used). This is a symptom of irrationality and fanaticism, though of course not the only one, and emotionality alone does not necessarily fanaticism make. (Also, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone particularly; in fact, I don't recall very exactly who has been saying what during this conversation, and don't really care to check.) FWIW, IMAO: 1) GNU/Linux is a fair and descriptive term for Linux systems that _do_ use the GNU libs and toolchain, even if alternatives exist (which they do, to _both_ GNU and Linux). The rest of the components (X11, DEs etc.) are clearly less essential in making a _functional_ (though bare) operating system. 2) It's not worth making a war over. 3) The discussion may have been fruitful at start in making the subscribers to this list aware of the issue, but that phase has long gone. Instead of continually posting more inflammatory material (like the quote above, though I don't mean to single it out, it's not the only one of its kind), a more productive stance would be simply _not to post anymore_ to this thread, even if the "other side" gets the last word. (Note that I'm directing this generically to the list, and not spesifically at David here, just that his happened to be the comment I finally decided to throw in my figurative two cents.) This will be my only comment to this thread. If you wish a reply from me to something, mail privately _only_. Chill. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> Transhumanist - WTA member - <URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/> Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - <URL:http://www.singinst.org/> _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community