On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 23:09 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote: > All, > > I've been reading on this lists for some time now and saw that there > are quite intelligent people here ;-) > I am not very up to date in my knowledge of GPS. Can somebody answer > me a couple of quick questions? > 1. Has anybody here ever used AGPS? I'd like to hear your > experiences.
Everybody who has used a modern GPS has used AGPS. It is usually called warm-start or hot-start. AGPS is purely a marketing term. To calculate the position a GPS chip needs: * almanac = coarse position of satellites * ephemeris = precise positon of satellites The almanac is broadcast in a loop of 12.5 minutes and valid for at least six weeks. The ephemeris is broadcast in a loop of 30 seconds and valid for ~2 hours. Time is mostly irrelevant, as modern chips synchronise within a second with the satellites. The receiver chipsets store this data in flash and load it from there onto the chip in order to _assist_ the hot or warm start. AGPS now means to load the almanac and the ephemeris from elsewhere, i.e. via a network. For example for free from the american government: http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/gps/precise/default.htm _A_GPS is a nice convenience yet the success and proper functioning of TomTom and Navigon PDAs shows that you don't need that at all. > 1. The chip in the Neo1973 is a Global Locate AGPS. Anybody know > what type? Hammerhead maybe? Should be Hammerhead. > I understand the concept of assisted GPS. But does the phone > have it's own antenna/receiver so that it can work without > 'assistance'? That's not really clear to me. See above, the important part is the GPS and not the assistance. Antenna is thus compulsory. > Has anybody info on the whereabouts of assistance servers, > especially in Belgium and Europe? Can be anywhere on the net. Alternatively a service from the cellphone operators. > Using the assistance servers will probably mean that I will > have to pay for that service. Any idea of the costs? They use the low cost of their chip as selling point. Their website implies that this is a service that comes with the chip. I'd call it not very clever if they are going to charge you - it would change their image from lowcost to money grabber and the reverse engineering of their binary protocol would happen even faster. Last not least: Global Locate boasts itself to get a first fix in 8 sec without AGPS. The importance of AGPS depends whether the part of their website you are reading is targeted at cell phone operators, or not. Should be a nice chip nevertheless. Marcus _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community