Salve David! On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, David Ford wrote: > p.s. the subject line is "no crossposting!" which list do people want > this to remain on?
I think it is clear that it is a general talk about SMS/MMS and not the question how to use the SDK, how to crosscompiling. Without a clear seperation of both list is having his 2 list contraproductive. The core developer and the most active people will read both list. openmoko-devel would be good to have with a focus on concrete coding issus so that programmer find information fast and good programmer will not unsubscribe because on to much general talk. community means not just a fan-club, maybe this will change with a shipping to endusers - but then I would be for a new mailingist for "consumers": openmoko-users. community IMHO should be a general discussion place, and openmoko-devel when it is about coding problems or knowhow. E.g. the question about FAX modem, AT commands and GPRS class is also in a way about developing - but IMHO this topic is without any direct programming issue - so it is community. Also translation is important, also for developing software to have localisation, but the question who will could translate which language is general talk, better on community - it could also motivate people with low or no programming skill to join and support this great project. Then openmoko-devel would be stay clear that hackers/coders/programmers will find fast the information that they need. So excuse my action on this point, but without care about a clear separation, one list would be better then two. When Harald, Sean or Mickey have another idea about the use of community and openmoko-dev - please write us how to use the two list in a clear and efficient way. let us see what Harald has written: --snip-- 2) openmoko-devel at lists.openmoko.org This is a mailinglist dedicated to OpenMoko development. From developers, for developers, by developers. Please do not ask questions related product sales, availability, support, usage, wishlist items, licensing or any other topic that is not related to technical development on this list. Initially, we didn't want to start this list before 'Phase 0' (Feb. 11), i.e. when there are actually developers with the device in their hands, and when the source code has been released. However, due to the large demand, we were convinced that it was important to start this list right now. Nonetheless, keep in mind that the OpenMoko development team is extremely small. Everybody is concentrating to make the 'Phase 0' release happen on schedule. Therefore, the amount of time that we can spend to deal with questions on the openmoko-devel list is very limited. Every minute we spend communicating with the outside world is one minute less of time for product development. Thus, openmoko-devel is mainly a forum for you, our external community of fans and supporters to help each other. --snapp-- http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/000002.html So talking about MMS is a wishlist item.... -> community. My try with the translation had worked better to send no answer to openmoko-devel so when you see crosspostings or postings on openmoko-devel that fits obviously better to community, just move without any additional post to openmoko-devel. Just imagine when mails would 2-4 times as much as today... Let us care (a bit - not to strong) to keep openmoko-devel clear focused on concrete developing. Greetings, rob _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community