On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: > > AFAIK, only T-Mobile did that, and they removed that clause a few months > > ago. > > Eplus does have that clause too.
Ahh, not too familiar with the German markets. > Plus running standard VoIP protocols like SIP and friends over a NAT > firewall that is not cooperating is not possible anyway. So you would > need to add a tunnel to some endpoint on the Internet, and add that > latency to the bad latency of GPRS/UMTS :( that's why our firmware will include both IPsec (with NAT-Traversal) as well as OpenVPN. If that wouldn't work often enough, we'll try and do encapsulation over port 443. But yes, guaranteed in-order delivery of telco networks is really not a very nice basis to run UDP (or TCP) over. Guess the telco world still believes in the OSI model :( Paul _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
