-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 And it's completely not relevant, as the Neo needs an input method that works for local apps ;)
Andreas Ted Gilchrist wrote: > There's always the multipress key input method: > > http://www.robocal.com/prod/robocal/robodicto.php > > It's low-tech, and works on all phones, since the logic is in the > server. I admit it's a bit tedious, but, ... > > Ted Gilchrist > > On 5/31/07, *Thomas Gstädtner* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Thank you for this post chris, nice to know, that dasher was running > on a so old and slow device already. > I'm see the things like you do: Touchscreen means you always have to > stare at the device for making inputs. > Like I said - I had a nokia 7710 before and it was nearby impossible > to use it blind. Even if you had a fullscreen T9-keyboad with huge > keys you had to check the display, because you cannot feel which > "key" you are pressing. > I also like the "driving a car" comparison :) > > 2007/5/30, Chris Ball < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > > > > Hi, > > I'm one of the Dasher developers, and am also interested in > hacking on > OpenMoko. So, getting Dasher going is fairly likely. > > > This pretty much means that you have to stare at the > display all > > the time when inputting text. > > Yes, this is the main difference between Dasher and > T9. However, the > comments about needing a lot of screen resolution or CPU aren't > so true > -- we did Dasher on the iPaq seven years ago at full-speed and > using > 150x150 resolution, and it works great. The reason we get away with > not so much resolution is that you're only really ever being > asked to > choose between five or so probable letters at each turn, and it > doesn't > take much screen space to show those, and you can predict > whereabouts > you're headed by knowing the alphabetic order of which character > comes > next. > > > Sure - in theory, dasher may approach arithmetic coding in > terms of > > information input. > > (I'm not sure what you mean by "approach" -- Dasher *is* an > arithmetic > coder, and matches the information-theoretic efficiency of one in > terms of bits/input to characters/output.) > > > But unless you can do the coding in your head, you've got > to stare > > at the screen, making it less useful for environments where > you've > > got vibration, sunlight, walking down the street, or less > likely > > for a phone, if you're blind. > > Yes, but the Neo doesn't have a keyboard, and doesn't have keys > for T9 > that you can use without looking at the screen, so I don't think > this > is a useful criticism. Dasher's very tolerant of vibration and > mistakes, > unlike T9 on a touchscreen -- it's much like driving a car, in > that if > you oversteer or understeer you just correct yourself later, because > it's all about navigation and where you end up. We can type > easily over > 20wpm on the iPaq with a touchscreen and stylus. > > Thanks! > > - Chris. > -- > Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > One Laptop per Child > > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org <mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > <http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community> > > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org <mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > -- > Botcast Network: http://www.botcastnetwork.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGXxTLHJdudm4KnO0RAv7XAKC91ayYJcdRXsfYdAxHTRNQKsKXcgCgyE8Z GkKS6RV3tVh+HXord4O1e2E= =H7/e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community