Interesting... Web services... I wonder if that makes it possible to export the web service off the phone To a program running somewhere else... Or if its limited to some local channel.

And, anyway.. That only means you would have to wrap it in another, fully exportable, web service for such integration.

--Tim
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:51, Matthew S. Hamrick wrote:
Wow. once again Apple justifies our lead.

On Jun 11, 2007, at 5:54 PM, adrian cockcroft wrote:

Also, Apple's announcement today about iPhone development using AJAX and exposing internal phone functions as web services to the iPhone's safari browser is tipping everything in the same direction.

Cheers Adrian

On 6/11/07, Matthew S. Hamrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yeah... we're thinking that we were going to totally separate the
model and domain processing from the view/controller part of the
application. That way we could have a couple different HTML
interfaces as well as a SVG/ECMAScript interface. I'm not terribly
familiar with XAML or XUL, but I understand that most (if not all) of
the Firefox / Mozilla / Navigator interface was written in XUL.

This is one of the benefits to this approach, IMHO. Separating the
interface allows us to experiment with a number of different
interface technologies. And the only thing the experimenters need to
know is the semantics and syntax of the XML interface.

-Cheers!
-Matt H.

On Jun 11, 2007, at 9:18 AM, Tim Newsom wrote:

 If we are heading in the direction of web interfaces, I think we
 should look at XAML or XUL or something similar.  From what I can
 tell, they will be adding silverlight support to mono, so using
 XAML will be possible.  This also separates the code for
 functionality from the interface and can allow skinning of the
 entire application interface set.

 This will abstract you from every widget set.  Each action could be
 exported and called from the UI without needing to worry about all
 that.

 At least, that's my take on it currently.

 --Tim
 On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 8:44, Florent THIERY wrote:
 Here's a little look-and-feel example that could be done with an
 opensource AJAX framework [javascript required]:

 http://demo.qooxdoo.org/current/showcase

 This may allow easier separation between apps and GUIs. Of course, as
 usual we have no idea how well such an app would perform (little &
 gratuitous prediction: very bad), benchmarking is needed but ... who
 knows ?

 This is going along with the ongoings gdk webkit port and gsmd
 XmlHttpRequest interface (was topic: embedded webserver).

 What do you think ? Is it REALLY unrealistic ? Could anybody try the
 url on it's Nokia N770 (lots of happy owners here, right?) and rough
 feedback the responsiveness ?

 Cheers

 Florent

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