-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well, you started to get personal.
Now, a newbie forum is fine, do as you like. Although one might argue that you are splitting the community in two. The problem is that you need a communication tool that is appropriate for newbies. And it must be appropriate for power user, or you'll have trouble to get enough answers for the questions your newbies ask. Now, if the FIC decides that they want to have forums (and notice that typically mobile manufacturers don't have forums on their site), they will have the additional option of paying the answerers. But currently, you are advocating an end user newbie communication tool, for a device that can (perhaps?) dial a number without hacking a Unix command line. Furthermore as an example for a pure newbie "forum" that runs as a mailing list, and runs well, take a look at the Python Tutor mailing list, where we regular deal with computer illiterates that have problems even writing a simple mail. You should consider the fact that, in a pure FOSS "market", you have newbies that post questions and advanced users that answer questions. Now, it's easy to find newbies, it's way harder to get professionals to donate their time to answer questions. Using a tool that is NOT good at heavy communication to make it more hassle for these advanced users is not a good strategy. Now, if you have a company that is willing to pay employees to answer these questions, you have at least a partial solution. Although it's still a solution for support, and not for a community, but who cares ;) Andreas Jonathon Suggs wrote: > Andreas Kostyrka wrote: >> My mail client sorts and deletes mailing posts for me :) >> >> <snip> >> at least if you use a sensible client. >> > AGAIN, you are forgetting who we are targeting with a forum! They will > be using Outlook. They will NOT be setting up filters or doing anything > other than hitting Send/Receive! >> The theoretical aspects are that Email is way more organized and >> standardized than the average html page. >> > We are not talking about "average html pages" We are talking about > setting up forum software that will correctly format html pages for the > task that they would be providing. > > You are directly embodying the persona that characterizes the people > that give FOSS a bad rep with "average users." You assume them to all > be at the same technical level as you. You would just as soon tell them > to change their MUA and setup filters as opposed to actually help them > with their problems. This type of arrogance will be what (potentially) > keeps people from using OpenMoko/FOSS despite its technical merits. > > I'll try to keep this civil, but PLEASE stop thinking only about > yourself. What is being proposed is not to kill the mailing list. What > we ARE proposing if you (collective you) would listen is to supplement > the mailing list with a forum. WHY ARE YOU RESISTING????!!!! > > -Jonathon > > _______________________________________________ > OpenMoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGplzSHJdudm4KnO0RAq0RAJ9fw3mbY5G10U1Intwo2zNem6qWNQCdGPjd k8mf7B9dZGWK0lBL2iVqmM4= =ctRy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
