On Friday 03 August 2007 14:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thomas: > > Importation of computer devices and peripherals to the EU is indeed both > VAT and import duty exempt - it appears that the description of the goods, > compounded with the value statement, has led to this issue. It is indeed > OpenMoko's error in not understanding the rules and I hold them responsible > for not disclosing that fact. > > When I can import USD$50,000 prototypes for computer peripheral units > without paying VAT and without paying import duty, I expect to be able to > do the same for a USD$450 prototype. >
I would not expect this. I've talked to some guys from UPS regarding VAT. They told me that I have to pay VAT if the price of the more than 22€. This information belongs to germany (dunno if I can extend this to the EU). Btw I didn't had to pay import duty... - homyx > Not to get into a flame war but, for your reference, VAT is 17.5% in the > UK....and I ordered the Advanced... > > Have fun! > > David. > > > ________________________________ > > From: Thomas Gstädtner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 03 August 2007 13:12 > To: David Prior > Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org > Subject: Re: Import Duty - I have refused my delivery. > > > Well, you chose to live in the wrong country (or the wrong continent). You > should know what expects you if YOU IMPORT a device. This is not the fault > of OpenMoko (Inc.). > Also there is no duty on computing devices and mobile phones in the EU - so > I guess you are wrong. GBP60 sounds like VAT (15.5% in UK), seems you have > ordered the basic device, so this IS VAT, no duty! VAT is levied by your > country, not by FIC/OpenMoko and if you chose to import you WILL have to > pay VAT every time - and the one you import from doesn't have to find out > for you how much it is (as it is charged by the customs, not by the > company). > > > > 2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >: > > Just thought you all might like to know that OpenMoko shipments are > attracting import duty in the United Kingdom. > > Despite paying USD104.99 for 'expedited' shipping, my order arrived > with a > demand for GBP57.19 in import duty. This should either be factored into the > shipping charge or, as these devices are technically 'computer > peripherals', described as 'computer peripherals' in order that they do not > attract import duty. > > I have REFUSED my delivery and it is being returned to the depot and, > presumably, will be returned to sender. > > I either want a new shipment that does not attract import duty *or* I > want > a full refund. > > I know these are developer releases but I would have hoped that OpenMoko > would have sorted out the international shipping issues properly. > > > I'm annoyed! > > David. > > > > ________________________________ > > This email and any files attached are intended for the addressee and may > contain information of a confidential nature. If you are not the intended > recipient, be aware that this email was sent to you in error and you should > not disclose, distribute, print, copy or make other use of this email or > its attachments. Such actions, in fact, may be unlawful. In compliance with > the various Regulations and Acts, General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited > reserves the right to monitor (and examine for viruses) all emails and > email attachments, both inbound and outbound. Email communications and > their attachments may not be secure or error- or virus-free and the company > does not accept liability or responsibility for such matters or the > consequences thereof. General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited, Registered > Office: 100 New Bridge Street, London EC4V 6JA. Registered in England and > Wales No: 1911653. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > This email and any files attached are intended for the addressee and may > contain information of a confidential nature. If you are not the intended > recipient, be aware that this email was sent to you in error and you should > not disclose, distribute, print, copy or make other use of this email or > its attachments. Such actions, in fact, may be unlawful. In compliance with > the various Regulations and Acts, General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited > reserves the right to monitor (and examine for viruses) all emails and > email attachments, both inbound and outbound. Email communications and > their attachments may not be secure or error- or virus-free and the company > does not accept liability or responsibility for such matters or the > consequences thereof. General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited, Registered > Office: 100 New Bridge Street, London EC4V 6JA. Registered in England and > Wales No: 1911653. _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community