Dnia niedziela, 26 sierpnia 2007, Lorn Potter napisaĆ: > On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
> > The problem with QTopia is that you will get GPL version (so no > > commercial applications for it) or will force OpenMoko into license > > payments. > > OpenMoko Neo is a 'free' phone, why would you want to put commercial > proprietary software on it? I thought the point of it was to get away > from closed source/commercial/proprietary apps. OpenMoko Neo gives me possibility to use Free Software which I can hack. But I live in a world where some functionality does not exists in Free Software yet. An example of it is good navigation software - I can accept paying for working commercial one. If I will prefer I will run it in chroot and limited privileges but will get something which will use GPS to something more advanced then just switching profiles based on location. > If I minded that, I would just use a Symbian or Windows Mobile phone as > apps for those abound. I like to have control over system which I use - thats why I switched from PalmOS into Linux on PDA. > > To get phone functionality of Qtopia > well, who knows.. if enough people email Trolltech... that could > change. if.. if.. if.. > > OpenMoko company would have to pay for commercial Qtopia Phone or > > wrote whole phone subsystem from scratch as there is no phone > > functionality in Qtopia4/GPL. > > Better than writing the whole shebang from scratch. Why not start with > something that is 95% finished, mature, stable and tested. > > /me shrugs Ask OpenMoko core team why they decided to go into GTK instead of Qt or Qtopia. > > And if you go into Qtopia world you will get small amount of > > applications. There was "lot" of stuff for old Qtopia versions > > (1.5->2.2) but none of them can be "just built" for Qtopia4 version > > (and you do not really want to play with Qtopia <4.x - trust me - I > > spent over two years with OPIE hacking). > > Nothing wrong with qtopia 2 and Opie... Except that qt2 is fscking old now. I know that qt/e 2.3.13 (or even newer) was released in 2006/2007 but it does not change that it has 7 years now. It is like writing for GTK 1.x - no one normal wants to start with it. > > For me LGPL is proper license for such device. It allows to write > > free applications which will use any license (all those hackers which > > you listed) AND it allows to write commercial stuff. > > OpenMoko is touted as a FREE phone with FREE software, not closed > source commercial software. Which do you want more of?? As I wrote - Free Software but with possibilities to use closed software too. > > We have GPS on device - how many Linux applications you know which can > > show you maps and route you from one place to another? I know few: > well, the neo is currently a developer only phone, so someone could > easily write such a best, for whatever gui library. And one day pigs will fly... -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant Q: What's a light-year? A: One-third less calories than a regular year. _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community