Josef Wolf skrev:
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 06:04:15PM +0200, Lars Hallberg wrote:
Josef Wolf skrev:
[ I warm-up this old thread again... ]

On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:02:31AM +0200, Lars Hallberg wrote:
a mock-up on a 90-key by one stroke finger keyboard. Think this might be an usable and pretty efficient input method.

  http://www.micropp.se/openmoko/
This looks very promising.  I like this idea.  The only issue I see is that
the least used characters (numbers) are the easiest to enter.  IMHO, the
mostly used characters should be accessible without dragging.
I think it's a good default as it reuses the users knowledges from t9 systems. It's important to be easy to pick up.

It is perfect for the "phone" functions.  But we don't want to stop at
trivial functions.

The phone function got it's own dialer keypad. But a numeric keypad may be useful for allot else... and I believe it to be most beginner friendly... And... I don't really think it's any big difference in hitting the main function or the secondary functions of a key.

But an alternative layout optimised for text input is good, as is a possibility for power users to define there own layout, or even special layout for different programs/tasks.

Sorry for my English... but I think I try to say about the same thing You did her :-)

In 2007.2 the scroll wheel is gone, so the key layout should probably be 5x3 giving the number of functions / key like (the status bar is gone so the bottom keys get less functions):

5 7 7 7 5
5 7 7 7 5
3 4 4 4 3

Ough, I don't really understand... You want up to 7 functions per key?

One only press+release, then press and drag in one of six directions = 1 + 6 = 7. But the keys on the edge of the screen can't be dragged in off screen directions giving less 'functions'. As described in:

   http://www.micropp.se/openmoko/

Make a total of 80 keys. Alternatively 6x3:

5 7 7 7 7 5
5 7 7 7 7 5
3 4 4 4 4 3

Make a total of 98 keys... Think You need a real device to find out what is best.

Too bad they are sold out :-(  No chance to buy one :-((

Well, there will come new ones :-)

The main good with this input method is its intuitive and probably reasonable fast. But now I'm thinking more on how to use minimal of screen space and work good one handed without visual attention... and still be reasonable in speed.

Maybe 8 functions per key (instead of 6) would be a benefit?  Only a guess.
You can't tell unles you actually tried it.

You mean 8 drag directions + just press+relese... 9 functions per key. Might work. Guess testing on the device is how to find out. But 6x5 keyboard with 8 drag directions give:

6 9 9 9 9 6
6 9 9 9 9 6
4 6 6 6 6 4

A total of 128 'keys'... Good *if* it works :-)

/LaH


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