Dani Anon wrote:
On 9/25/07, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:32:46 +0200, "Dani Anon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 9/25/07, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Carlo E. Prelz wrote:
      Subject: Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973
      Date: mar 25 set 07 08:18:31 +0200

Quoting Dani Anon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

- But QT is not free (as in beer) for commercial usage
This is not the only reason why Qtopia is sub-optimal.
It's not a reason at all. Neo is a "free" phone! If I wanted commercial
applications, I could easily use any other phone out there. The reason
why we are all here, is because the Neo is 'free software'. Would the
Neo interest you as much if it wasn't as 'free'?
Tell that to all the people using Wine under Linux.
I Don't think there are so much...  I fully agree with him to say Neo/OpenMoko goal is to 
become a *FREE* user friendly phone. Even if Qtopia could give bigger range, or bigger 
"celebrity", it will not change the OpenMoko/OpenEmbedded mission, to provide a 
free framework/os

People keep saying that but really, are you sure that openmoko goals
exclude proprietary software?
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Commercial_models

Of course they don't, because they are developing using the LGPL, which encourages commercial closed source.


Linux is a perfectly free operative system but support for proprietary
software isn't discouraged.

Not by the operating system, or the LGPL, but by the culture surrounding it. How many commercial closed source applications are available for Linux? How many have you bought? Have you paid attention to what people say when someone releases closed source for Linux? How often have nvidia and ATI been harassed about their closed source? How many software have been released open source as a result of community pressure?

Think of Oracle, Opera, vmware to name a
few. In fact, one could argue that an open platform that makes
proprietary development expensive is less free than a closed platform
that makes proprietary development (as well as free development) free,
so I think you are very wrong about this.

Perhaps, but we aren't talking about closed platforms.
To most commercial entities, software licensing is not as much as development costs.



FIC is a company after all and I'm pretty sure that to them, the
non-free nature of qtopia for proprietary usage would be a concern but
that is good.

FIC wants to sell hardware.



--
Lorn 'ljp' Potter
Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech

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