I just want to remind everybody about that Neo is one project and
OpenMoko is another. Saying that, I have to give FIC a lot of credit for
coorperating, but this doesn't mean that another vendor isn't allowed to
make phone with a camera. Who knows, maybe there'll be two, three, or
maybe four different phones later on.
Regards,
Mikkel Meyer Andersen
Jay Vaughan skrev:
I do tech support for phones and I assure that there are many
people who don't care about cameras. I knpw because they
say exactly that "I don't need a camera".
Wait until someone actually writes some good applications that use the
camera as more than just a holiday-fun activity capture device. For
example, I'd love to use the GTA03 as a mouse. This is entirely
feasible if it has a camera onboard.
;)
j.
I can't say that Neo is for non techies. An open source linux
based phone where you can compile your own kernel and
can get a JTAG adapter for flashing ... for non techies?
This is the developer stage, obviously. There's no point for me to be
spending so much effort being involved with the developer stage of this
phone project, if there isn't at least some promise that on the horizon,
OpenMoko will be available to consumers as a platform. I envision that
all the effort I'm putting into writing apps for OpenMoko will prove
worthwhile, once there are people who can buy OpenMoko-based phones
freely on the open market, plug in my feed address, and subscribe to my
applications. This would be an awesome relationship, in my opinion,
between me (the developer) and (hopefully) thousands of users. If there
isn't at least a promise of this on the horizon, there is no point
hacking around with OpenMoko - I can get my Linux hacker fix on with
plenty of other more viable platforms, in the meantime. Such as for
example, the GP2X gaming platform, which shares a lot of similarities
with the OpenMoko ethos, even though the users:developers ratio is a lot
higher in that realm.
I would encourage anyone on this list right now to remember that this is
supposed to be the developer-stage ramp-up towards a possible more
consumer-oriented future. Please, OpenMoko people, plan to bring
products to the market that are *not* so developer focused in the very
near future.
I would love to have a few thousand normal users plugged into my
application feeds, and not just for the fun of it.
A fully open source phone is a provider's nightmare. That
does not mean they won't sell to users, but it does mean
that providers won't buy them to sell to you, not unless they
can erase the flash image, provide their own, prevent the
JTAG access, and many other things ...
All of these tasks can quite easily be wrapped up in a consumer-friendly
package, without intruding on any network-provider realities. The fact
is that the OpenMoko-based phones are quite functional devices - once
people see that there are applications beyond-the-box for the handy they
are enslaved by, things will change. I can think of tons of
applications for OpenMoko, also, that are not just limited to
network-provider metrics; I, for one, would love to see these
applications become more broadly acceptable, and thats not going to
happen without a little developer investment and faith, no matter what
the status quo currently provides, that there will be users one day able
to buy hardware to run the cool pocket apps of the future. Such as we
are seeing right now with the developer-stages of OpenMoko..
j.
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