On Nov 6, 2007 6:39 PM, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Common, take a look outside of your own borders. It's hard to inmagine an > > Open > > Source phone gaining any traction at all in the US, land of software > > patents, > > closed standards and telco control. There are quit a few OSS projects doing > > just fine despite being illegal in the US, an Open Source phone will do just > > fine without US support. > > > > > And Nokia is not a US company, nor is Sony-Ericsson, both became major > > players > > in this market before there even was any form of GSM coverage in the US. > > > > 1. did I say it was not possible to exist as a company without the US? No. > > What I said was that a plurality of smart phones are sold in the US. that's not true. I don't know the exact numbers, but i DO remember that the US are only at the nineth or tenth place of the smartphone-buyers-list.
> It is a major market. hm.. no. In the us the mobile communication sector ISN'T a major market at all. Ok, my information is not thaat up to date (2005-2006), but if we compare: italy and germany togheter have more active mobile phones then the whole usa. (actrually in italy we have 2.5 phones per person :D ) >And a huge amount of OS work is done in the US. ok, that's true. But that doesn't mean that less is done outside the usa. > To design a phone that specifically cant really be sold in the US is > dumb. As above, in 2005/2006 only 12% of the announced phones could be used in the usa. I don't know if ou have ever been in a phone shop in europe or asia.. compare it to the usa and you'll cry to. >It cuts out a huge potential market. And given the high level of > competition, loosing 20 - 30% of your market opportunity is > potentially deadly. > > > > > We're not, nor do we have nearly the largest possible sales base. > > > > > > It is not true to say that we dont *nearly* have the largest base. > > > whatever the numbers are, particularly for smart phones, I would be > > > shocked to hear the US was anything but one of the top markets. Only > > > japan could compete as a potentially larger market in asia. Certainly > > > they are not going to be selling tons of these in China. > > > > Yeah, because it's not like there are loads of smart phones being sold in > > Europe... > > "loads". Is that a new unit of measure in europe? If you have no exact data, you have to approximate. The countries with the highest phone/person ratios are japan, finnland, italy, spain and germany. I wouldn't say this are third world countries, so you can assume we are not speaking of old nokia 3310, but probably some really hig-tech phones. > > It's Asia first, then Europe and the the America's, largely because > > the US had an incompatible system of their own for years. And you may be > > suprised about china too, 1% of the chinese buying a phone is as just as > > good > > as 4% of the US buying your phone. And it's far easier to gain marketshare > > in > > China then in the hugely locked-up US market. > > > > Ok, so I guess this whole thing in your mind is really good biz dev > strategy because they dont need the US. No one sais they don't need usa. Just if they have to drop usa or rest of the world.. i would choose usa. > Lol. They need more strategists like you at FIC. I think they would need more testers, as we saw.. > > Hank > Stefan > > _______________________________________________ > OpenMoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- My corner of the web: http://blog.ramsesoriginal.org My dream, my world: http://abenu.wordpress.com My work: http://unicoinuffico.wordpress.com Before printing this email, assess if it is really needed. Thank you. _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
