Hi everyone, I recently got my GTA01 and am trying to get the gllin ipkg from http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/gllin/ . However, everytime I download it, it says it is corrupted. Does anyone know another place I can try to download it?
Thanks On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 15:58 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Send community mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of community digest..." > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: fredthecat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > Subject: Exit of OpenMoko Window System > > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:02:11 -0500 > > > > Dear All > > > > I was playing around with a fully emulated QEMU OpenMoko system (from a > > built system using MokoMakefile as > > documented in the Wiki), and at one point I hit the space bar (it the > > emulated Linux OpenMoko system received the > > keypress). > > > > When I did this, it exited the windows system (as if it had crashed or > > just plain died), but dropped me to a command > > line login ... and I could happily login as root and use regular commands. > > > > My question is this: did I hit a but and crash the UI, or did I hit > > some magic (to me) sequence that is intended to exit the UI? > > > > regards > > > > Martin > > > > > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Ron K. Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Subject: LiMo article in Washington Post > > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:46:57 -0500 > > > > Informative article about LiMO in the Washington Post: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/14/AR2008021401518.html?wpisrc=newsletter&wpisrc=newsletter&wpisrc=newsletter > > > > It may require site registration, but it is a very light-weight approach. > > > > I am interested in understanding LimO and how it does or does not > > relate to Open Moko. > > > > thanks > > -- > > Ron K. Jeffries > > http://blog.eronj.com > > > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02) > > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:53:28 -0500 > > > > On 14/02/2008, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thanks Kyle for a great summary of the work being discussed on the > > > kernel ML. I am simply not able to keep up with all the lists and very > > > much appreciate your helping out here. > > > > > > Michael > > > > indeed, thanks for the info kyle. > > > > i've been avidly following the dev cycle of the software/hardware > > here, and it's good to see some technical info from the kernel ML, 95% > > of which is over my head > > > > would it be possible for someone - michael, kyle? - to give an update > > on this kind of info on a regular basis? i'm sure there are plenty of > > others eager for technical progress, but who are unlikely to venture > > on the kernel list? > > > > > > > Kyle Bassett wrote: > > > > I have been following the "Suspended Mode" thread in the kernel ML and > > > > they have made amazing progress within the last week. As GTA02A5 > > > > currently stands, a "cold" suspend mode (just GSM in standby awaiting > > > > incoming call/sms), could result in >20 days of standby! > > > > > > > > For those technical people on this list, they have gotten GTA02A5 in > > > > suspend using ~2.07mA @ 3.7v (fully charged batt). If the GTA02 will > > > > have a 1200mAh battery, that's ~24 days of suspend runtime in a perfect > > > > world. The goal is set around 1mA-2mA of suspend current draw, with > > > > best case scenario suspend time of ~50 days (sure beats 4 hours... :-P > > > > ). There are also issues such as internal battery discharge, ~30% over > > > > 90 days for one of the packs that is being considered, which will > > > reduce > > > > the final suspend runtime available. > > > > > > > > Currently, work continues attempting to shave even more power > > > > consumption from a sleeping Freerunner. Individual power consumption > > > of > > > > the different internal devices is still taking place, that way any user > > > > can approximate their battery lifetime (but each internal device has a > > > > few different states, making this a tedious task). In the very near > > > > future, we should see some numbers coming in about the "talk" runtime, > > > > once some GSM power state issues are resolved. > > > > > > > > There is talk about pushing startup power control of the internal > > > > devices (wifi, bt, gps, mmc, etc.) to user level, as every user may or > > > > may not want certain devices available at bootup/all the time > > > > (availability vs. duration). > > > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Subject: topic for next community update [was Community Update Wed > > Feb 13 2008] > > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:10:27 -0500 > > > > Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Hi Michael > > > > Thanks for the update - here are some questions for the next one in a > > couple of > > weeks .... all just to keep the community amused til the _great day_ > > arrives.... > > and not more important than the internal work of you and the OpenMoko > > team... > > > > 1) General information about the Neo FreeRunner graphics capabilities. This > > follows some comments I saw by raster and others in the IRC channel that > > there > > were some limiting issues. What is the comparison to Neo1973 gfx? > > This may > > relate to what target market you are going after for FreeRunner. > > > > 2) What is OpenMoko's plan to release FreeRunner > > i) release when hardware and kernel are solid and before application > > software is > > polished. Community helps to polish software prior to full launch to > > "basic > > end users" > > ii) release when both hardware and software are polished. Will take a > > little > > longer but will impress journalists more... > > > > 3) What does Sean think of the numbers here! :-) > > http://openmoko.hobby-site.com/ > > > > JW > > > > > > > > > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Marc-Olivier Barre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: topic for next community update [was Community Update > > Wed Feb 13 2008] > > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:25:00 -0500 > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 9:10 PM, JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > Hi Michael > > > > > > Thanks for the update - here are some questions for the next one in a > > > couple of > > > weeks .... all just to keep the community amused til the _great day_ > > > arrives.... > > > and not more important than the internal work of you and the OpenMoko > > > team... > > > > > > 1) General information about the Neo FreeRunner graphics capabilities. > > > This > > > follows some comments I saw by raster and others in the IRC channel that > > > there > > > were some limiting issues. What is the comparison to Neo1973 gfx? > > > This may > > > relate to what target market you are going after for FreeRunner. > > > > This might be of interest : > > http://dodji.blogspot.com/2008/02/xglamo-x-server-of-neo-gta02-device.html > > __________________ > > Marc-Olivier Barre, > > MarcO'Chapeau. > > > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: topic for next community update [was Community Update > > Wed Feb 13 2008] > > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:42:38 -0500 > > > > It's always been option i. Hence the release of GTA01. Many apps on > > that are still not polished. > > > > It'll be many months after the release of the Freerunner before the > > phones are ready for "basic end users". > > > > -Steven > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:10 PM, JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2) What is OpenMoko's plan to release FreeRunner > > > i) release when hardware and kernel are solid and before application > > > software is > > > polished. Community helps to polish software prior to full launch to > > > "basic > > > end users" > > > ii) release when both hardware and software are polished. Will take a > > > little > > > longer but will impress journalists more... > > > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: LiMo article in Washington Post > > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:55:12 -0500 > > > > The article says "Anyone hoping to create new applications for > > competing proprietary programs from Microsoft Corp., Palm Inc., > > Research in Motion Ltd. or Nokia Corp.'s Symbian must pay licensing > > fees." > > So, I'd say it doesn't relate to OpenMoko. OpenMoko is truly an open > > platform that you can develop for without restrictions and without > > paying anything. "LiMo" seems to me to be some big companies grabbing > > on to what they believe to be this great new buzz-word: Linux. > > > > -Steven > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Ron K. Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Informative article about LiMO in the Washington Post: > > > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/14/AR2008021401518.html?wpisrc=newsletter&wpisrc=newsletter&wpisrc=newsletter > > > > > > It may require site registration, but it is a very light-weight approach. > > > > > > I am interested in understanding LimO and how it does or does not > > > relate to Open Moko. > > > > > > thanks > > > -- > > > Ron K. Jeffries > > > http://blog.eronj.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > OpenMoko community mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > To: List for OpenMoko community discussion > > <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02) > > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:58:07 -0500 > > > > Can GTA01 users upgrade to this battery and would it make sense to do so? > > > > Ortwin > > > > On 2/14/08, Wolfgang Spraul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Andy - > > > > > > > class to expose it so it is generic. (I don't know for sure if it > > > > will > > > > ship with such a battery since it is decided in .tw according to > > > > availability and so on, but I hope it will.) > > > > > > Yes, I think we can confirm that every GTA02 will ship with this new > > > 'smart' battery. > > > There are more steps to go through internally, related to > > > certification, some sort of calibration. Tony, do you know more details? > > > The cell's capacity will increase slightly to 1250 mAh (before was > > > 1200 mAh). > > > I am trying to release the schematics for the small PCB inside the > > > smart battery as well, will be posted to the wiki. > > > > > > Wolfgang > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2008, at 12:43 AM, Andy Green wrote: > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > > >> On Thursday, Feb 14, 2008, "Kyle Bassett" writes: > > > >>> There is talk about pushing startup power control of the internal > > > >>> devices > > > >>> (wifi, bt, gps, mmc, etc.) to user level, as every user may or may > > > >>> not want > > > >>> certain devices available at bootup/all the time (availability vs. > > > >>> duration). > > > >> > > > >> Indeed, this along with good realtime stats on power usage and > > > >> current > > > >> battery level would let people have reasonably accurate predictions > > > >> of > > > >> their battery life. It'd be interesting (to me at least) to turn > > > >> on and off the various peripherals and watch my projected battery > > > >> life > > > >> go up and down accordingly. > > > > > > > > GTA02 is capable to dialogue with a "smart battery" that will allow > > > > you > > > > to see the battery actual voltage and current flow (together: actual > > > > power) in uA down /sys in realtime, it uses the linux "Power Supply" > > > > class to expose it so it is generic. (I don't know for sure if it > > > > will > > > > ship with such a battery since it is decided in .tw according to > > > > availability and so on, but I hope it will.) > > > > > > > > The battery itself learns its cell performance over load and also > > > > makes > > > > available its "time to full/empty" estimate down /sys as well in > > > > seconds. You can see what data is available here: > > > > > > > > http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/bq27000 > > > > > > > > You can see stuff like this > > > > > > > > for i in capacity charge_full current_now present status technology > > > > temp > > > > time_to_empty_now time_to_full_now type voltage_now ; do echo -n "$i > > > > " ; cat /sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/ > > > > $i ; done > > > > > > > > capacity 0 > > > > charge_full 1215585 > > > > current_now 183375 > > > > present 1 > > > > status Discharging > > > > technology Li-ion > > > > temp 276 > > > > time_to_empty_now 0 > > > > time_to_full_now 3932100 > > > > type Battery > > > > voltage_now 2761000 > > > > > > > > - -Andy > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > > > > > iD8DBQFHtG+yOjLpvpq7dMoRAq2TAJoCYOC+PD3gj/jRMpOPnBL5MZJkzQCfTJn4 > > > > 9ebCrbNjtGtDMBsJuUXZ8HY= > > > > =ANtG > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > OpenMoko community mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > OpenMoko community mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
