Timo Jyrinki timo.jyrinki at gmail.com wrote on Fri Mar 14 22:01:43 CET 2008
First speaking about Neo being not open, it's funny to advertise a
device with lots of proprietary software and problematic, very closed
pieces of hardware, preventing any theoretical free software
distribution to be actually usable on the device. And regarding out of
the box functionality, it plays none of digital music I have since the
vendor refuses to support free/open media formats, even actively
fighting against them.

I don't think there's currently a competitor on sight to Neo phones on
openness, though of course things could always get improved. My pet
peeve would be to work on i18n and open up mailing list to
translators, but I guess it's again a bit later on :)

-Timo

...and the Neo *is* fully open? What about the graphics module, the gps module, 
and the gsm module? You may get some I/O specs, but the modules themselves will 
never be open. They won't even release the CAD files for the case in their 
original form...

I have yet to come across any media file that I can't play on my N800; it plays 
ogg, wav, mp3, wma, wmv, xvid, etc. It even plays some Web media that my 
desktop kubuntu machine won't. It sounds to me like you're going on hearsay 
rather than personal experience.

In order for there to be "competition", there has to be something available. 
The Trolltech Greenphone comes to mind, though, as its availability matches the 
Freerunner's at this point. Not to mention that's the origin of Qtopia that everybody 
seems to be running on their Neos rather than OpenMoko. That's more than a little 
revealing...

What good is openness if you can't get your hands on the device? Vaporware 
isn't very useful to most people...

Mark


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