On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Lally, > > This is clearly my responsibility, and in fact there is such a page: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates > > I confess I have been lax in the past few months and have not updated > since January, but the status is in fact the same as it was then.
I've been meaning to e-mail you personally about thing bugging me but this conversation very vaguely touches on some, so I'll enter it here. :) We, the "openmoko community" demand you communicate with us. We complain when you don't. The flip side is true with us, however. You can't be expected to communicate to us about the things that matter unless we tell you clearly WHAT matters. I think this shows on both sides, however that there are clear communication issues. One thing mentioned in the IRC chat several days ago was a notice on direct.openmoko.com telling people of the impending Freerunner "debut". As it is RIGHT now, people interested in supporting OpenMoko are being turned away, but you're providing no curiosity pique for those people to return at a later date to make a purchase. Lally raises the point of the "community" responding here with a "read the topic" response but OMi should really be directing how they want that handled. Do you want interested persons to turn to IRC and ask a question we're "all" tired of answering, or have those interested people be put on a mailing list to be informed when they MAY spend their money on this project? I don't presume to tell you how to do anything, and I'm not even dropping the implication of incompleteness or incompetance here, but OpenMoko at this point DOES have a fledgling brand identity and it is in the interest of both the project AND the company to ensure that what is said "in the name of" OpenMoko is indeed reflected by aims of the project. > > There is some confusion as to whether A5 is known to be inadequate and > whether A6 will be a necessity. I am trying to get to the bottom of this. Some people understand what this means, and some people do not. Gnome devs need to sometimes remember that there's dealing with people who can't tell a cursor from a config file. :) Openness mean sometimes admitting when someoen doesn't know something. Even saying "I've sent out some e-mails but haven't gotten anything I can share" means something. Of all of the people on the IRC channel at any given say, I know several of them are NOT subscribed to this list. What this means is that "updates" are spread by word of mouth and evolve with every telling of the news. I'm under the impression that OMi just hired someoen who's sole job will be to organizize the Wiki and make sure that the information is either up-to-date or clearly marked "out of date". The goal here will be to clear out the dead content and grow new content but the VAST majority of people don't know that this person has been hired, and even fewer of us have access to the company directory to e-mail her a question - this kind of development is (for some) as important as knowing of the some transistor is vital or just "helpful for the future". > > Michael > > > _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community