If anyone is really interested in make this phone an AP to whatever use  
and  if a  external power is  an option, why not use a USB 1.1 
wireless adapter able to  do that even it only do it  in b instead of 
g if the usb 1.1 doen't allow  the 54 Mb/s.it can be very probable that 
can even use monitor mode with that dongle ;) even without external power it 
can be doable for a shorts periods of time (well battery will decide the 
timeframe)


--- El jue, 29/5/08, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
De: Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Asunto: Re: Neo as cellular modem?
Para: "List for Openmoko community discussion" 
<[email protected]>
Fecha: jueves, 29 mayo, 2008 6:00

Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2008 08:59:10 +0200, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
>> We're helpless unless Atheros decided to implement Master mode in
their
>> closed firmware.  Unfortunately the power advantages of having the
bulk
>> of the ieee80211 actions managed in the firmware are pretty compelling
>> so I don't know how we get out of that bind.
> 
> The very knowledge that we can't do something that the hardware would 
> technically be capable of is annoying, 

Strongly agree. In some cases this was a result of the agreement we were 
able to reach with the chip manufacturer in order to open source the 
driver. We don't view this as a perfect solution, but rather a good 
start. Hopefully in the future the success of Openmoko will encourage 
chip manufacturers to become more open.


> but I don't really see why we would need to implement a true AP in the
phone. 

Strongly disagree. Innovation is stifled whenever choices are limited 
simply because we can't think of why someone would want to make that 
choice. We should always strive to make such choices available.




For any reasonable use
> case I can think of, ad-hoc mode should be enough. The only usability 
> advantage of being an AP would be that it can send beacon packets that 
> allow other devices to detect an available network, but sending beacon 
> would be a battery drain anyway.

Assuming the use case made sense, the Freerunner could be powered 
externally.

Michael

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