thank you so much! You cannot believe how hard people at Openmoko work and getting a mail like yours rewards many of us for 12+ hours working days. It's a long way, lots of hardware and software bugs, we know it. I like your 'bad teeth' analogy :-) Wolfgang
On Jul 7, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Tilman Baumann wrote: > I never had a phone for the last decade. > Mostly out of protest against the ridiculous data rates and prices on > GSM. And because all phones sucked. > I had sworn me, when UMTS would comes out and the prices are ok, i > will > buy a phone. > UMTS came, the prices where ok but the phones still sucked. And i did > not feel i would miss much. > > And most important of all, i completely lost hope for all mobile phone > software. There where no iterative improvements. Features came ant > went > with no regular pattern. Phones did not get better with time, they > just > stagnated. They did not even managed to put all features in which they > had in earlier models. > And bad software did never get fixed. The only way to overcome bad > software was to by a new phone. > It never felt right for me to give them money for theyr bad service. > > And all of them completely missed the point about having internet on a > mobile device. The franticly searched for the killer app for UMTS but > could not find any. But the killer app for phones was clearly IP (open > communication) and a open software stack. > > Opensource was clearly the answer for all that. > > Then things happended. Openmoko and the iPhone came. The iPhone > started > a big fire under the fat and lazy ass of phone manufacturers. They are > reminded that innovation is something that sells phones and makes > customers happy. But i'm sure those who will not burn to death will > not > manage to stand up for the next time. > Changes will happen slow. Its after all the mobile phones business. :) > > And there was Openmoko. There was never any doubt for me that this > will > be the right answer to a good and healthy software evolution and > constant improvement for mobile phone software. > > So i'm here. I broke my oath to never buy a GSM only phone (Neo > 1973). I > was not able to make stable phone calls for month with my rather > 1990ish > new phone. > But i was happy and i still am. > > Sure. The hardware could be better. But this is something the industry > managed to do all the time. > > We need to make software a important part of phone development. > This is where the industry (and subsequently the customer) needs help. > This is where a bunch of hackers can make a big difference. > > I'm sure Openmoko started something important. > The vastly successful way of software evolution and development which > opensource provides will greatly improve all phones to come... > > I'm happy that Fic gives us this stepping stone to change the world. I > gladly ignore some bad teeth of this horse. ;) > > Ajit Natarajan wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I've seen a number of remarks on this list that the hardware in the >> FR >> is ancient and this is the price of openness and freedom. >> >> I did a quick search for some of the parts: >> >> The Samsung 2442 SoC seems to date back to 2005. I got this from the >> revision history in the user manual [1]. >> >> The Antaris 4 GPS chip dates back to 2006. This is the from the 0635 >> datasheet revision history [2]. >> >> The Calypso GSM chip dates back to 2000. This is from the leaked >> hardware definition manual revision history [3]. >> >> The Accton 3236 WiFi chip dates back to 2006. This is from the >> ``2006.12'' at the end of the datasheet [4]. >> >> I haven't looked at the other chips. >> >> From the above, the GSM chip looks ancient. However, the other chips >> don't seem that old. And some recent devices are using these parts >> as >> well. For example, the RoverPC C6 introduced in December 2007 uses >> the >> Samsung 2442B at 300MHz. >> >> So, I don't understand the comments on ancient parts. What have we >> compromised on by choosing these parts? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Ajit >> >> >> [1] >> http://210.118.57.197/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/SC32442/um_s3c2442b_rev12.pdf >> [2] >> http://www.u-blox.com/products/Data_Sheets/ATR0630_35_SglChip_Data_Sheet(GPS.G4-X-06009).pdf >> [3] http://cryptome.org/ti-calypso2.pdf >> [4] http://www.accton.com/products/Datasheet/WM3236A.AQ.pdf >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > -- > Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. > Please print this mail only on recycled paper. > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
