>> The FSO-stack is what's needed to get that API and to get the >> developers. > > The FSO-stack is another case of reinventing the wheel. It sounds nice > on the paper but in reality this is a horror. There are PIM APIs like > eds and whatever in the KDE world or qtopia is used. It took years for > them to grow mature and nobody needs yet another API.
how far are they toolkit independent? ie do these apis work with gtk/etk/whatever or are they deeply integrated with kde/qtopia? > The thing is that Michael Lauer massively dislikes C and needs > everything reinvented in Python. C has its place in the embedded world > as much as Python has. But again we cut a huge slice out of the > developer base. well, you need somebody willing to put some effort into things -- and it helps, if you love it. > This is simply not true. It was just a lack of documentation. And I > can't help it, but this has been deliberately blocked in order to pave > the way for this ASU/FSO. Even developers from o-hand who developed for > Openmoko in their freetime finally left the boat being completely > disgusted by the fact of constantly running against walls. i wouldn't know about that -- but as much as i would like you to ask for proof: i think it only will force this thread down the slope into a flame war which will solve nothing. >> FSO with it's dbus-api will make this much easier > > IMHO this is just pure nonsense. I know that it has been repeated over > and over again by Michael Lauer because it is his baby. i think those argumenta ad personam aren't going anywhere. i don't know about past wars and fights and honestly -- i am not interested at all. so let's just skip the "i don't like X because X likes Y" part and come to something useful: - what makes you think fso will not solve anything (besides the already mentioned problem of maturity) - what toolkit agnostic apis are available > Last not least: if you want to use your code in the future on a moblin > device you are just doomed/trapped in an API that nobody else uses. well, what api do you see coming to be used on future moblin devices? as far as i can see both of the approaches (limo and google) are basically closed, exposing a careful selected window to the devices. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

