Marcus Bauer wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 08:45 +0200, Kalle Happonen wrote: > >>> Its really pretty important that the communication on this issue *not* >>> diverge into hate and vitriol towards customers, because to those who >>> are observing the OpenMoko project - not participating - the SD+GPS >>> testing issue is a *huge* screw up. >>> >>> >>> >> No, the SD+GPS issue is a bug. Admittedly a somewhat nasty bug, but >> nothing extraordinary. The Debian key generation vulnerability was a >> *huge* screw up. >> > > I don't follow your view. The Debian ssh bug was all but obvious. That's > why it went for a long time unnoticed. Not being obvious doesn't mean it isn't a huge screw up. Small things can mean huge implications. The Debian bug immideately cut the foundation of a huge amount of security that relies on this, worldwide and in critical applications. Keys are expected to be practically uncrackable, and a *lot* is built on this assumption, so correct key generations should be a no-brainer (20-20 hindsight, I admit). So the debian bug was a huge screw up, but luckily I think it was fixed with a bad scare in most cases.
> However, the GPS is a basic feature and its malfunctioning is very > obvious. If you buy a new car and the engine doesn't run you'll wonder > if anybody ever drove around with it. > > Well, if you buy a beta first customer release car and the gps isn't working when you play a cd, You might think crap! well luckily they promised a fix in the end of the week, in time for the weekend trip to my parents. > The same goes for making phone calls: there is quite often a buzzing > sound on the far end and it can be really bad. Unless you don't care > about the people you are calling the Neo is not usable as your daily > phone. > This IMHO is a much bigger problem, which has caught much less attention. > Then there are the phones with a GSM modem that constantly re-registers. > > > And there is still no word about which headsets are usable with the Neo. > > Don't mix up freedom with broken hardware! > Don't mix first release beta phones with big-company market ready devices (which sometimes are "market ready" themselves, even with a lot more resources). I think this is just a bit bigger case of the whole gta02v5 vs gta02v6 led issue, that when quickly resolved actually was forgotten and even the word "issue" is too strong. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
