First we need a phone app that supports SIP. I would very very much like to use the FR as a SIP phone. I don't need T-Mobile for that (and neither does anyone else), we just need a working phone app that supports VOIP as a back end, and access to open WiFi AP's (plenty of those around).
I have a Diamondcard/Ekiga account for phone calls to the POTS network, and it works great and is dirt cheap. I wouldn't want to deal with proprietary crap like whatever T-Mobile is going to foist upon people. Is anyone porting Ekiga to the FR? I saw a component in ASU that looks like a VOIP "back end" for the Qtopia phone app; that'd kick ass if it was working. Any ideas what I'd need to do to get it to work? -ken ---------------- On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 07:14:09PM -0400, c d r wrote: > > I'll begin to pursue this via the provided links in my copious spare > > time. Anyone interested in an ongoing dialog let me know. > > how well integrated is it? > > i was planning on using a moko, primarily via SIP/IAX but with T-Mo prepaid > SIM for occasional GSM needs > > if it can seamlessly roll between the two, preferring wifi/sip (or their > equiv) when available, that would kick ass > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Al Johnson wrote: > > > > > On Thursday 17 July 2008, Carl Karsten wrote: > > >> "Make and receive unlimited nationwide calls over Wi-Fi with your > > >> home > > >> phone." > > >> http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1&rate > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> Anyone know if the FR will work with whatever VoIP protocol t- > > >> mobile uses? > > >> does anyone even know what protocol it uses? I found this: > > >> > > >> "The technology T-Mobile is using is called Unlicensed Mobile > > >> Access, or > > >> UMA. UMA takes the protocol used by GSM handsets and encapsulates > > >> it into > > >> an IPSec VPN for transmission over the public Internet. The VPN is > > >> authenticated using the subscriber's SIM card via a protocol called > > >> EAP-SIM." > > >> http://www.voip-weblog.com/50226711/is_the_linksys_wrtu54g_voip.php > > > > > > Nice prompt for a little background reading. From what I see it seems > > > unlikely. strongSWAN appears to support IKEv2 and EAP-SIM but > > > somehow I doubt > > > T-Mobile will hand out the certificate needed in addition to the > > > SIM. The bit > > > that looks tricky is the signalling part to tell the mobile phone > > > network > > > that it can pass the call data over to the wifi connection. This is > > > the sort > > > of thing that's normally buried in the cellular modem, and I don't > > > know of an > > > open version of that. I could be pleasantly surprised though - it > > > would be a > > > good addition to have. > > > > > > [1] http://www.embedded.com/underthehood/205916513 > > > [2] http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6470081317.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
