On 28 Jul 2008, at 21:31, Jay Vaughan wrote: >> Sorry to hear it doesn't work for you. But like I said, we each have >> our >> own ways of understanding and making meanings. >> You are free to create your own meanings. > > I just can't see how you honestly believe all this panty-waiste > dilettante waffling about "not having a design because its up to the > open community" is going to drive things forward.
I read Sean's message quite differently to the way you did, apparently. I read it as "we do have a design for ASU" and presumably when he said "we're not taking votes on piddly little implementation details" this is because FIC just want to get on with things and as quickly as possible and get ASU to the sate where it's the reference-platform (with the nice-looking GUI) that you desire. Having said that, I had to read the message more than once to arrive at these conclusions. From Sean's message & Will's [1] it seems to me like people at Openmoko sometimes speak a different language from the rest of us, a language with over a thousand words for "blue sky". I don't want to sound negative (again!) because over the weekend I've had a bit of a revelation about Openmoko, and I'm feeling much more positive than I was a couple of days ago. I've just spent quite a bit of time trying to express that in a reply to "Openmoko on Design" that I sent privately to Sean; I've asked him if I can post that to the list, but I don't want want to publicly post "my interpretation" of Openmoko if he thinks that mischaracterises them. Initially I was really angry about the whole removal-of-the-keyboard-button-by- shadowy-designers thing, and I've come to realise it's irrelevant and that I was stupid to get upset about it. Nevertheless, the problem with the explanations made by Sean & Will is that one shouldn't have to "interpret" statements of official policy at all. We shouldn't be "free to create your own meanings" from your explanations. I found these posts surprising because they seem to have borrowed their manner of response from John McCain's recent interview on gay adoption [2]. They approached some clear and specific concerns in a way that geometry does not address - had they done so tangentially it would have been a vast improvement. I think my first project will be called MokoBingo! (with the exclamation mark!)! It will check the mailing list on a regular basis and the Freerunner will make a squeaky noise when any of the following terms are encountered: Open, free, innovation, imaginative creative, community. Resources, sharing, imagination, struggle, essential ideas. Foundation, openness, art, growth. Self-organize, building dreams. Productive! Understanding, the power of open. diversity, change. Actually, you will get two squeaks for "self-organize". Stroller. [1] [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an Openmoko employee, right? [2] http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=llZuoMXpr4s _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
